Hydraulic Clutch Issue

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Well folks, we have a new developement!
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spit it out, your damn car is killing me!!!!!!!!!
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WTF DUDE? What gives???
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LOL - had to keep you in suspense for a minute. :lol:

The system held pressure fine overnight. We're starting to think it's the shift fork not returning the way it should, in turn not pushing the slave back to it's "start" position.
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So we're going to try and lubricate it tonight without dropping the gearbox. Otherwise, I'll just continue to use the socket under the pedal method until we have a chance to drop the box.
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Mugen Mike wrote:LOL - had to keep you in suspense for a minute. :lol:

The system held pressure fine overnight. We're starting to think it's the shift fork not returning the way it should, in turn not pushing the slave back to it's "start" position.
So possibly that stupid spring thing on the backside of the release fork?

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Number 5?
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That would be very interesting if that's the case...
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Mugen Mike wrote:So we're going to try and lubricate it tonight without dropping the gearbox. Otherwise, I'll just continue to use the socket under the pedal method until we have a chance to drop the box.
I recall talking about this quite a bit ago :P
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walker111 wrote:So possibly that stupid spring thing on the backside of the release fork?

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Number 5?
That's what we're thinking.
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walker111 wrote:I recall talking about this quite a bit ago :P
No you don't - it was never brought up before - it's a new development!

:P
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walker111 wrote:If you have some time I would reccomend using teflon tape with all the fittings. Also, bleed the system, get it working, spray everything off with brake cleaner, drive it, check for any leaks, let it sit, then check for leaks again....
Not trying to discredit you at all, Jim, but your recommendation of using teflon tape on clutch lines confuses me.

This is my understanding of how things work:

Teflon tape on the threads would not seal a leak on a clutch or brake line, as the cone of the nut and the flare of the tube are what makes the seal. The nut is only there to hold the flare to the seat.

Teflon tape is only useful to help make tapered fittings seal.
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Mugen Mike wrote:
walker111 wrote:I recall talking about this quite a bit ago :P
No you don't - it was never brought up before - it's a new development!

:P
whatever, I'm gonna search...
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walker111 wrote:whatever, I'm gonna search...
I was just messing with you, I do remember it being discussed. :wink:
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Reid wrote:
walker111 wrote:If you have some time I would reccomend using teflon tape with all the fittings. Also, bleed the system, get it working, spray everything off with brake cleaner, drive it, check for any leaks, let it sit, then check for leaks again....
Not trying to discredit you at all, Jim, but your recommendation of using teflon tape on clutch lines confuses me.

This is my understanding of how things work:

Teflon tape on the threads would not seal a leak on a clutch or brake line, as the cone of the nut and the flare of the tube are what makes the seal. The nut is only there to hold the flare to the seat.

Teflon tape is only useful to help make tapered fittings seal.
True, but I've seen leaks at the threads. I've only seen them at the proportioning valve and with some plumbers tape it stopped. I understand what your saying, maybe its just peice of mind when dealing with the problems mike is having...

Maybe after putting the tape on I just tightened it down tighter than it was before. After thinking about it I see it in my head and am telling myself that the tape is fixing it :P
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walker111 wrote:Maybe after putting the tape on I just tightened it down tighter than it was before. After thinking about it I see it in my head and am telling myself that the tape is fixing it :P
This could very well be the case. :P
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So I re-installed the system last night, and I didn't have to re-bleed the system this morning - I think this is a good sign. :D
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Good to hear!
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Awesome. Glad to hear there is progress.
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Maybe it was just installation error when putting the new slave on!?!
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What are you trying to say you jive honky fool?! :P
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Mugen Mike wrote:What are you trying to say you jive honky fool?! :P
team Lazy strikes your installation :lol:
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Mugen Mike wrote:What are you trying to say you jive honky fool?! :P
Take that stupid boot off. And see if everything is copesetic(sp?)

This was a problem I had awhile ago. Something wasnt right with the slave, we ended up messing with it and bled the system and it worked.

^^^^Both quotes earlier on in the thread....
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Well the pedal sank between the time I drove to work and the time I left for lunch. I pulled the pedal up manually and held it for a minute and pressure was back.

I think I'm gonna pull the boot back and l00b it up inside there. :P
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Mugen Mike wrote:I think I'm gonna pull the boot back and l00b it up inside there. :P
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Mugen Mike wrote:Well the pedal sank between the time I drove to work and the time I left for lunch. I pulled the pedal up manually and held it for a minute and pressure was back.

I think I'm gonna pull the boot back and l00b it up inside there. :P
lol, I hope it works out for you. Buy the release arm and spring, if I go to expo, I'm game for pulling the trans!!
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