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Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:23 pm

Erik95LS wrote:I'd have to go with the 98 also. It definitely seems like the best choice.

Reasoning?

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 5th, 2006, 11:26 pm

Dave_B wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:I'd have to go with the 98 also. It definitely seems like the best choice.
Reasoning?

the convienience, the quaife, price, and the fact that if you really want a JDM front you can do it yourself and do it right. I've seen alot of those things completely butchered. Plus the engine and that it was maintained by that guy....Just seems like the logical choice to me. Not to mention that if he's ready to sell you coudlessentially be driving it tomorrow.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:28 pm

Erik95LS wrote:
Dave_B wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:I'd have to go with the 98 also. It definitely seems like the best choice.
Reasoning?
the convienience, the quaife, price, and the fact that if you really want a JDM front you can do it yourself and do it right. I've seen alot of those things completely butchered. Plus the engine and that it was maintained by that guy....Just seems like the logical choice to me. Not to mention that if he's ready to sell you coudlessentially be driving it tomorrow.

Yeah, true. Anybody want a Spoon engine? I'll trade for an ITR swap plus cash!!! As for the maintenance, yeah it was a Honda technician person. It's actually a she and She's now a Corvette tech for a local Chevy dealership. I'll have to look at the body tomorrow and see what kind of condition it's in and all. If it's really huge dents, I'll be getting the car cheaper, or not at all. I do have to make this decision by tomorrow though, so that's where I'm at. Well along with this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4-9mB_kGgg

Post by **Doespike** » October 5th, 2006, 11:33 pm

Dave_B wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:
Dave_B wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:I'd have to go with the 98 also. It definitely seems like the best choice.
Reasoning?
the convienience, the quaife, price, and the fact that if you really want a JDM front you can do it yourself and do it right. I've seen alot of those things completely butchered. Plus the engine and that it was maintained by that guy....Just seems like the logical choice to me. Not to mention that if he's ready to sell you coudlessentially be driving it tomorrow.
Yeah, true. Anybody want a Spoon engine? I'll trade for an ITR swap plus cash!!! As for the maintenance, yeah it was a Honda technician person. It's actually a she and She's now a Corvette tech for a local Chevy dealership. I'll have to look at the body tomorrow and see what kind of condition it's in and all. If it's really huge dents, I'll be getting the car cheaper, or not at all. I do have to make this decision by tomorrow though, so that's where I'm at. Well along with this....

The car or hers?

Hey, you might make a new FL friend get a lil warm and wet

Reid · Post by **Reid** » October 5th, 2006, 11:35 pm

Are these the absolute cheapest GSR's that you can find?

If I were you, I would take advantage of the fact that you can do lots of your work yourself and get cars painted cheaply. Find the cheapest, running Integra (doesn't even NEED to be a GSR, IMO) that you can find and fix any problems that arise. Look for one that needs paint, so much so, that most other people aren't interested in purchasing it.

Buying cars that are pre modified are for those who don't have the means to modify it themselves, IMO.

$3500 stock GSR
$800 for paint/materials
$800 for PIC suspension
$250 for rear upper camber kit
$1000 for wheels/tyres
$2000 for JDM front end
$500 for new rotors/pads/fluid
$400 for Comptech rear swaybar kit
------------
$9250

So even with my rough estimates, you've still got around $2k to play with.

I didn't include an engine rebuild into the price, as you already stated that you're going to build an engine with boost in mind (regardless of which car you pick up).

Personally, I'd rather buy a stock car and make it completely my own, then buy a car with even an intake and exhaust.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:35 pm

Doespike wrote: The car or hers? Hey, you might make a new FL friend get a lil warm and wet

Ya know, I thought about that too, only I was talking to her BF, who was talking to her while I was on the phone, but I do have her number and I'll be talking to hear tomorrow and not him.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:38 pm

Reid wrote:Are these the absolute cheapest GSR's that you can find?

If I were you, I would take advantage of the fact that you can do lots of your work yourself and get cars painted cheaply. Find the cheapest, running Integra (doesn't even NEED to be a GSR, IMO) that you can find and fix any problems that arise. Look for one that needs paint, so much so, that most other people aren't interested in purchasing it.

Buying cars that are pre modified are for those who don't have the means to modify it themselves, IMO.

$3500 stock GSR
$800 for paint/materials
$800 for PIC suspension
$250 for rear upper camber kit
$1000 for wheels/tyres
$2000 for JDM front end
$500 for new rotors/pads/fluid
$400 for Comptech rear swaybar kit
------------
$9250

So even with my rough estimates, you've still got around $2k to play with.

I didn't include an engine rebuild into the price, as you already stated that you're going to build an engine with boost in mind (regardless of which car you pick up).

Personally, I'd rather buy a stock car and make it completely my own, then buy a car with even an intake and exhaust.

I totally understand what your saying. The only problem with that though is I can't finance a lump sum of 10k for all of that. They are going to go off of NADA value of the car and finance that. It does have to be a black integra, and I'd prefer the GS-R to start with if possible.

I have searched high and low around here for a Black GS-R, all stock and they are nowhere to be found. My search even included up to 15k for one, though I wouldn't pay that for it. If out of state, then I go through the entire hassle again.

Post by **98 CW ITR 322** » October 5th, 2006, 11:38 pm

Anybody want a Spoon engine? I'll trade for an ITR swap plus cash!!!

Hey all! *waves*
Dave why trade a spoon for an ITR? Isn't a Spoon just a Type-R motor with a higher degree of blueprinting?

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:42 pm

98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
Anybody want a Spoon engine? I'll trade for an ITR swap plus cash!!!
Hey all! *waves*
Dave why trade a spoon for an ITR? Isn't a Spoon just a Type-R motor with a higher degree of blueprinting?

Yes, but they have "value" because it's a Spoon engine. For what reasons I have no idea. I just look at it as a low mileage B18C. I was kinda kidding though on a trade for an ITR engine. Now a K20A2 maybe. That I'd probably do even swap for.

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 5th, 2006, 11:46 pm

Dave_B wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4-9mB_kGgg

YES!!!! Its been a good hour since I last listened to it. Wanna perform it at expo? its only four chords

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:48 pm

Erik95LS wrote:
Dave_B wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4-9mB_kGgg
YES!!!! Its been a good hour since I last listened to it. Wanna perform it at expo? its only four chords

Yeah, I'm game!!! Dawn can be my girl in the pit!!!

Post by **98 CW ITR 322** » October 5th, 2006, 11:48 pm

Dave_B wrote:
98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
Anybody want a Spoon engine? I'll trade for an ITR swap plus cash!!!
Hey all! *waves*
Dave why trade a spoon for an ITR? Isn't a Spoon just a Type-R motor with a higher degree of blueprinting?
Yes, but they have "value" because it's a Spoon engine. For what reasons I have no idea. I just look at it as a low mileage B18C. I was kinda kidding though on a trade for an ITR engine. Now a K20A2 maybe. That I'd probably do even swap for.

That idea has been interesting me too. http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php This link has a lotta resources on a K20A2 swap into DC2's. If you look around at pics this one guy had the cleanest swap I've ever seen. he hid most of the wiring and hoses and underhood looked SWEET!

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 5th, 2006, 11:52 pm

98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
That idea has been interesting me too. http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php This link has a lotta resources on a K20A2 swap into DC2's. If you look around at pics this one guy had the cleanest swap I've ever seen. he hid most of the wiring and hoses and underhood looked SWEET!

The creator of that site lives about 25 minutes from me. One of the first k series swaps in the country and knows more about them than most people. I'm not really a fan of k-series in b-series hondas though.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 5th, 2006, 11:57 pm

It's just a thought guys. I've done B-series stuff, but never a K. It would just give me more experience and something that we could market at the shop.

Post by **98 CW ITR 322** » October 5th, 2006, 11:57 pm

Erik95LS wrote:
98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
That idea has been interesting me too. http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php This link has a lotta resources on a K20A2 swap into DC2's. If you look around at pics this one guy had the cleanest swap I've ever seen. he hid most of the wiring and hoses and underhood looked SWEET!
The creator of that site lives about 25 minutes from me. One of the first k series swaps in the country and knows more about them than most people. I'm not really a fan of k-series in b-series hondas though.

Why not ERIK? http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12486&page=7 Check out K20DC2R's ride Dave.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 6th, 2006, 12:00 am

98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:
98 CW ITR 322 wrote:
That idea has been interesting me too. http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php This link has a lotta resources on a K20A2 swap into DC2's. If you look around at pics this one guy had the cleanest swap I've ever seen. he hid most of the wiring and hoses and underhood looked SWEET!
The creator of that site lives about 25 minutes from me. One of the first k series swaps in the country and knows more about them than most people. I'm not really a fan of k-series in b-series hondas though.
Why not ERIK? http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12486&page=7 Check out K20DC2R's ride Dave.

Must be logged into the site.

Post by **98 CW ITR 322** » October 6th, 2006, 12:03 am

Oops! My bad.

He even hid battery behind the firewall... looks cool but don't know how safe it would be.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 6th, 2006, 12:07 am

98 CW ITR 322 wrote:Oops! My bad. He even hid battery behind the firewall... looks cool but don't know how safe it would be.

That kind of stuff I'm not really into. Sure, it looks "cleaner" but what's the point? It's not going to be a show car.

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 6th, 2006, 12:07 am

98 CW ITR 322 wrote: Why not ERIK? http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12486&page=7 Check out K20DC2R's ride Dave.

Yeah I've seen that car. I could see myself considering one in the future, but I just don't really like the idea of it. The benefits are incredible though.

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 6th, 2006, 12:11 am

Dave_B wrote:
98 CW ITR 322 wrote:Oops! My bad. He even hid battery behind the firewall... looks cool but don't know how safe it would be.
That kind of stuff I'm not really into. Sure, it looks "cleaner" but what's the point? It's not going to be a show car.

really pretty pointless and makes things harder to work on.Although cleanliness is very good. Makes it much easier to spot problems/work on the car.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 6th, 2006, 12:17 am

So what, go look at the 98 tomorrow and then go from there?

Post by **Doespike** » October 6th, 2006, 12:24 am

Dave_B wrote:So what, go look at the 98 tomorrow and then go from there?

Yeah, if nothing else, it'll satisfy your curiosity. And most likely will push your decision one way or the other.

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 6th, 2006, 12:27 am

Doespike wrote:
Dave_B wrote:So what, go look at the 98 tomorrow and then go from there?
Yeah, if nothing else, it'll satisfy your curiosity. And most likely will push your decision one way or the other.

Very true. I'm definintely planning on at least looking at it. So what do I do when both are good deals though?

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » October 6th, 2006, 12:30 am

Dave_B wrote:
Doespike wrote:
Dave_B wrote:So what, go look at the 98 tomorrow and then go from there?
Yeah, if nothing else, it'll satisfy your curiosity. And most likely will push your decision one way or the other.
Very true. I'm definintely planning on at least looking at it. So what do I do when both are good deals though?

definitely.....wake up and go check it out

Dave_B · Post by **Dave_B** » October 6th, 2006, 12:31 am

Erik95LS wrote:
Dave_B wrote:
Doespike wrote:
Dave_B wrote:So what, go look at the 98 tomorrow and then go from there?
Yeah, if nothing else, it'll satisfy your curiosity. And most likely will push your decision one way or the other.
Very true. I'm definintely planning on at least looking at it. So what do I do when both are good deals though?
definitely.....wake up and go check it out

Wake up? Ha...

I already told her I'd be calling around 11am tomorrow to check it out. I really need to check NADA value on a GS-R with that kind of mileage. They may not even finance it. Dunno yet.