so i just got banned from h-t by an EF forum moderator

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:14 pm

EL VAP133 or some shit!

LOL

somebody send me GK's email so I can ask him to review the charges please! I saved the whole bunch of pm's in my profile and when I try to log on it says 'user banned for threads to moderator'.

I never threatened anyone, but the guy is acting like a douche and lacks debate skills.

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:16 pm

lol, fo reels?

WTF..

I dont have GK's email, but I will pm him and tell him you got banned...

Whats your email addy?

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:18 pm

kenuvius@yahoo.com

that forum's mod is a douche

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:18 pm

pm sent with a link to this thread...

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:19 pm

Black_R wrote:kenuvius@yahoo.com

that forum's mod is a douche

lol

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:20 pm

User Banned

Banned for threats to mods.

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:21 pm

Black_R wrote:
User Banned

Banned for threats to mods.

r joo an e-thug?

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:23 pm

i never made a threat.

i saved the pm's in my h-t acct, so i'll post the whole thing here as soon as i can access it...

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:24 pm

Black_R wrote:i never made a threat.

i saved the pm's in my h-t acct, so i'll post the whole thing here as soon as i can access it...

How did this all take place?

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:24 pm

I saw your two threads over there...

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:32 pm

short story:

i made a thread on EF > EG in the ef forum.

he locked it for NO reason.

i pm'd him for an explanation (very civil-like).

he replied that since it wasn't tech (which it DID have some tech in it) that was why.

i asked why not let me know so i could change it a bit or whatever to bring it into compliance. instead he says quit beating a dead horse and cites that it MUST be tech or it isn't allowed.

i look in 30 seconds and find a SHITLOAD of non-tech threads in there, and show him.

he refuses to see the facts and says that's that and says quit beating a dead horse, 'end of discussion' blah blah blah

so i say, way to go in exercising moderating skills. :thumbdown:

he then bans me.

NO THREATS. obviously abuse of power and lack of debate skills on his part.

keep in mind that i've been on h-t since before the split with h-a.net and before the board crashes and loss of all posts on two occasions. :/

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:36 pm

Thats true with alot of mods over there, especially if your not a regular in that forum... Kinda how we are in the ITR forum. Sounds like that mod is an extra special douche..

Gk still isnt online, anyone else joo want me to pm?

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:38 pm

not unless you know an admin.

GK moved my thread to GDD when I requested it though.

WTF, you can't post threads about an EF in the EF forum?

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:39 pm

Black_R wrote:not unless you know an admin.

GK moved my thread to GDD when I requested it though.

WTF, you can't post threads about an EF in the EF forum?

lol, I know no one. I havent seen Reid on in quite awhile, he would do something..

I should add fuel to the fire and make a thread in that forum...

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:40 pm

we can have a ITR vs EF forum war!

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:44 pm

that would be funny as hell, but i don't want you to get banned too.....

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:51 pm

Black_R wrote:that would be funny as hell, but i don't want you to get banned too.....

What can I make a thread about?

ITR vs EF hatch w/ ITB's K-series
Post pics of EF hatches wit black rota slips yO

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 6:52 pm

lolol, you are really going to be pushing it.

George Knighton · Post by **George Knighton** » November 16th, 2006, 6:56 pm

Try to relax and let me ask Vap about it.

I'm not sure why you thought it was a good idea to argue with him. Arguing with somebody on Honda-Tech is always, always, always going to cause a rucktion.

I'm not going to make it worse by unilaterally unbanning you, but I will talk to him about who you are and what your past is. He probably just had no idea who you were.

Never, never argue with officials, not at the track, and certainly not at Honda-Tech.

It's never going to solve anything.

NOTE: The ITR Forum is unique in the latitude it affords posters. Most of the other marque forums are tech-only forums, and they have special rules that make everything else actionable.

walker111 · Post by **walker111** » November 16th, 2006, 6:58 pm

George Knighton wrote:Try to relax and let me ask Vap about it.

I'm not sure why you thought it was a good idea to argue with him. Arguing with somebody on Honda-Tech is always, always, always going to cause a rucktion.

I'm not going to make it worse by unilaterally unbanning you, but I will talk to him about who you are and what your past is. He probably just had no idea who you were.

Never, never argue with officials, not at the track, and certainly not at Honda-Tech.

It's never going to solve anything.

NOTE: The ITR Forum is unique in the latitude it affords posters. Most of the other marque forums are tech-only forums, and they have special rules that make everything else actionable.

:thumb up:

TypeR1461 · Post by **TypeR1461** » November 16th, 2006, 7:45 pm

Hey BlackR dont worry about H-T it's lame. I find itrca to be a much better forum. People are nice here. I got bannd from H-T also you will be glad your not a part of that family after a while. No disrespect to H-T as i know most user's on this site are also user's on H-T. Truth be told H-T mod's can learn a thing or two from itrca mod's Just my .02

-Geo

white rocket · Post by **white rocket** » November 16th, 2006, 8:02 pm

I had a similar occurance arise about a year ago. I started a thread in the "normal" Integra forum asking about a certain front lip for my gf's 4 door teggy. I posted links to other past threads I had read but either the pics were red x's or there wasn't enough info in the thread. I stated that I was "visiting" from the ITR forum as well. Within 1 minute my thread was deleted and a mod PM'd me saying that I should "take this shit to the A&C forum"

. I basically let it go without a response and never went back.

<---who felt a bit offended and power tripped on

Black_R · Post by **Black_R** » November 16th, 2006, 10:16 pm

George Knighton wrote:Try to relax and let me ask Vap about it.

I'm not sure why you thought it was a good idea to argue with him. Arguing with somebody on Honda-Tech is always, always, always going to cause a rucktion.

I'm not going to make it worse by unilaterally unbanning you, but I will talk to him about who you are and what your past is. He probably just had no idea who you were.

Never, never argue with officials, not at the track, and certainly not at Honda-Tech.

It's never going to solve anything.

NOTE: The ITR Forum is unique in the latitude it affords posters. Most of the other marque forums are tech-only forums, and they have special rules that make everything else actionable.

Seriously, GK what could possibly be the sense in banning me because of pm's non public? Especially when I asked for cause and there was none?

At this point, that individual has basically acted like a child - which seriously makes me rethink any desire to be a part of that 'scene.'

The mods imho should represent the board and its' principles. And if people of that ilk are now running the asylum, then perhaps it's better that my time there is done.

I know a lot of people in the itr forum, and don't venture much elsewhere except maybe for rr/ax and allmotor... maybe a dabble or two in tech or gdd. The point is that I've made my home h-t for YEARS, and contributed many fine posts and threads imho.

To be judged by a power tripping kid who can't even conduct himself in a debate - and banned unreasonably is just fucking stupid.

To wit, I have gone over all of the rules I could find on h-t and found none that I've violated. Where is the requirement for TECH? That seems to be the thing that he's hiding behind. However the double standard escapes those who are cool to VAPIE.....

Further, have you ever known me to be anything but level headed? Heck, I really didn't even flame the kid. *shrug*

If it's that much trouble, then don't don't worry about it. I'll find a good home here where I should've been in the first place (since it is itr specific). It sucks to devote so much time and energy (and threads) and lose it because of a childish mod.

"WHO WILL POLICE THE POLICE?"

George Knighton · November 17th, 2006, 11:58 am

Black_R wrote: Seriously, GK what could possibly be the sense in banning me because of pm's non public?

I opened up the PM file, and IMHO you did go overboard. You frustrated him by continuing to argue instead of shutting up or just asking me what was going on.

I am confused by the time stamps. It seems to me that some of your IM conversation with him took place after you talked to me and after I had edited and moved your thread.

Are you sure you weren't trying to be deliberately provocative?

The mods imho should represent the board and its' principles....

I know a lot of people in the itr forum, and don't venture much elsewhere except maybe for rr/ax and allmotor... maybe a dabble or two in tech or gdd. The point is that I've made my home h-t for YEARS, and contributed many fine posts and threads imho.

I agree 100%. The atmosphere in the several marque forums is not the same. You can do things in ITR Forum that would get you banned in EG Forum, and I do not think that it is fair.

There is no leadership there that can get it all in line right now. The owner has hinted that he wants a major overhaul, but because of the time constraints placed on him by the ventures that bring in the most money, he cannot ever seem to get around to finishing it and implementing it.

We also have waaaay too many moderators who don't do very much anymore...but if you hint that it's time to get more moderators or replace moderators, it's like you've brought the roof down on your own head.

I think that your own problem with Vap is going to get solved. He is not an unreasonable person and I think that he will understand that you just kind of lost your head for a little while.

There are also some useful threads to which we can point as testimony that you are a generally well versed and helpful person to have around.

I am sorry you had this problem...but please remember for the future that it's a mistake to argue with officials. They are also human beings who can lose their tempers, and you cannot expect every official to know who you are and how useful you are. It's a big place.

Post by **Dave-ROR** » November 17th, 2006, 2:17 pm

I like arguing with HT mods and admins.