Steering ratio of 2001 ITR vs 1997

Jacques79 · Post by **Jacques79** » February 13th, 2007, 2:30 am

Hey all

Is the steering ratio of the 2001 ITR quicker than the 1997?

thanks

Jacques79 · Post by **Jacques79** » February 13th, 2007, 2:43 am

My bad I found the info on the acura website.

The ratio was quickened to 15.7:1 with a lock-to-lock of 2.85.

The 1997+ models has a 16.1:1 ratio with a lock-to-lock of 2.98.

I wonder why Honda just barely changed the ratio in 2001; why didn't they offer noticably quicker steering while they were at it?

get RIGHT · Post by **get RIGHT** » February 13th, 2007, 10:49 pm

dunno.
Thats a great question.

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 14th, 2007, 3:00 am

didn't honda start doing it in 2000 instead of 2001?

Jacques79 · Post by **Jacques79** » February 14th, 2007, 4:17 am

SerGTR wrote:didn't honda start doing it in 2000 instead of 2001?

Nope it's in 2001, last year of the Integra.

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 14th, 2007, 4:44 am

Jacques79 wrote:
SerGTR wrote:didn't honda start doing it in 2000 instead of 2001?

Nope it's in 2001, last year of the Integra.

But why does it says 2000 in FAQ of ITRCA??

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » February 14th, 2007, 4:58 am

SerGTR wrote:
Jacques79 wrote:
SerGTR wrote:didn't honda start doing it in 2000 instead of 2001?

Nope it's in 2001, last year of the Integra.
But why does it says 2000 in FAQ of ITRCA??

I could've sworn it switched in 2000 also

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 14th, 2007, 5:18 am

So are there anyway to improve older models? Any conversions?

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » February 14th, 2007, 5:19 am

SerGTR wrote:So are there anyway to improve older models? Any conversions?

you could get one of the newer racks or try to swap in a manual civic rack and get the quaife kit.

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 14th, 2007, 5:24 am

Erik95LS wrote:
SerGTR wrote:So are there anyway to improve older models? Any conversions?
you could get one of the newer racks or try to swap in a manual civic rack and get the quaife kit.

I see. I wish honda improved it even better to something like s2k's 14.9:1 ratio, well is that possible?

Jacques79 · Post by **Jacques79** » February 14th, 2007, 4:21 pm

SerGTR wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:
SerGTR wrote:So are there anyway to improve older models? Any conversions?
you could get one of the newer racks or try to swap in a manual civic rack and get the quaife kit.
I see. I wish honda improved it even better to something like s2k's 14.9:1 ratio, well is that possible?

The 2000-2003's 13.8:1 ratio would have been even better but it's electrical steering so I doubt it will hook up to an ITR....

Also I see no sense in swapping a 16.1:1 rack for a 15.7:1 rack; you won't notice the difference, or it will be too small to notice for the price the swap will cost!

Someone talked about a Quaife kit; what's that?

Bbasso · Post by **Bbasso** » February 14th, 2007, 4:43 pm

http://www.quaifeamerica.com/suspension/suspension.htm
Acura Integra 1994-2001 LHD NEW 3.25 60.435.011K 239.00

The QSR quick ratio rack and pinion gear set is perhaps the most underrated performance part around. The Quaife rack and pinion gears simply replace the existing pieces inside your stock steering rack housing. More rapid steering response is felt with an average of 25 percent reduction in ratio, resulting in fewer turns lock-to-lock: this translates into much quicker steering and turn in at the cost of a slight increase in effort. The QSR is a must for autocross, drifting, and track days. Designed to fit manual steering racks only. Not for power steering

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » February 14th, 2007, 5:57 pm

Jacques79 wrote:
SerGTR wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:
SerGTR wrote:So are there anyway to improve older models? Any conversions?
you could get one of the newer racks or try to swap in a manual civic rack and get the quaife kit.
I see. I wish honda improved it even better to something like s2k's 14.9:1 ratio, well is that possible?

The 2000-2003's 13.8:1 ratio would have been even better but it's electrical steering so I doubt it will hook up to an ITR....

Also I see no sense in swapping a 16.1:1 rack for a 15.7:1 rack; you won't notice the difference, or it will be too small to notice for the price the swap will cost!

Someone talked about a Quaife kit; what's that?

I noticed a pretty drastic difference.

Bbasso · Post by **Bbasso** » February 14th, 2007, 6:01 pm

drastic difference with the Quaife rack or switching to a stock R rack?

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 14th, 2007, 7:06 pm

thats a nice and affordable option but overall is this upgrade will benefit track racing?

Bbasso · Post by **Bbasso** » February 14th, 2007, 7:50 pm

SerGTR wrote:thats a nice and affordable option but overall is this upgrade will benefit track racing?

As I was once told, Unless it's a pure race car and that's all it's used for the QSR is not needed.

Erik95LS · Post by **Erik95LS** » February 14th, 2007, 8:55 pm

Bbasso wrote:drastic difference with the Quaife rack or switching to a stock R rack?

switching to the 2000-2001 ITR rack

Jacques79 · Post by **Jacques79** » February 15th, 2007, 2:26 pm

Erik95LS wrote:
Bbasso wrote:drastic difference with the Quaife rack or switching to a stock R rack?
switching to the 2000-2001 ITR rack

really? wow I gues I was wrong. The specs were barely unchanged I thought it would be very hard to notice.

SerGTR · Post by **SerGTR** » February 15th, 2007, 6:32 pm

Jacques79 wrote:
Erik95LS wrote:
Bbasso wrote:drastic difference with the Quaife rack or switching to a stock R rack?
switching to the 2000-2001 ITR rack
really? wow I gues I was wrong. The specs were barely unchanged I thought it would be very hard to notice.

TOLD YA!

HYREV2NR · Post by **HYREV2NR** » February 17th, 2007, 2:08 pm

I never auto-xx my car so I opted to install a manual Del Sol rack. Much more room to work w/ & about 30 lbs. lighter.