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Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:32 pm
by walker111
supposedly its only 272 miles away from me, seems odd.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:33 pm
by walker111
Erik95LS wrote:
walker111 wrote:I might see if I can get my car tuned this weekend...
what do you have to tune it with?
lol, vafc. Unless my friend can get me hondata by then...

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:34 pm
by walker111
I'm not trying to get huge nembers, I just want everything working ok with each other..

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:36 pm
by Erik95LS
Thats all I have too is a vafc. Yack can work wonders with em.

whats the story on the accord? where in oh?

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:36 pm
by Bbasso
Ditch the VAFC... I'll never use it again. And Jack had tuned my car with it.

Nothing bad to say about Jack, but the damm VAFC... Worked like it should, just not right for our caRs.

Go with Hondata, even a simple one will be better.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:38 pm
by Erik95LS
Bbasso wrote:Ditch the VAFC... I'll never use it again. And Jack had tuned my car with it.

Nothing bad to say about Jack, but the damm VAFC... Worked like it should, just not right for our caRs.

Go with Hondata, even a simple one will be better.
well obviously a more dynamic/standalone system is far better and on my list, but the VAFC does what its supposed to and expected to do very well.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:39 pm
by walker111
Bbasso wrote:Ditch the VAFC... I'll never use it again. And Jack had tuned my car with it.

Nothing bad to say about Jack, but the damm VAFC... Worked like it should, just not right for our caRs.

Go with Hondata, even a simple one will be better.
I know, I jsut hate the fact of going to obd1, finding a jumper harness, and a p28

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:40 pm
by Erik95LS
walker111 wrote:
Bbasso wrote:Ditch the VAFC... I'll never use it again. And Jack had tuned my car with it.

Nothing bad to say about Jack, but the damm VAFC... Worked like it should, just not right for our caRs.

Go with Hondata, even a simple one will be better.
I know, I jsut hate the fact of going to obd1, finding a jumper harness, and a p28
PowerFC>hondata IMO

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:41 pm
by walker111
Erik95LS wrote:
Bbasso wrote:Ditch the VAFC... I'll never use it again. And Jack had tuned my car with it.

Nothing bad to say about Jack, but the damm VAFC... Worked like it should, just not right for our caRs.

Go with Hondata, even a simple one will be better.
well obviously a more dynamic/standalone system is far better and on my list, but the VAFC does what its supposed to and expected to do very well.
Mine came with the car and havent touched it since.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:42 pm
by Bbasso
Well...

FC might be the top, but it also cost a bunch more then I can afford.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:42 pm
by walker111
I dont even know what I'm looking at.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:43 pm
by walker111
Stupid question......whats a power fc?

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:44 pm
by walker111
walker111 wrote:Stupid question......whats a power fc?
other than a tuning device.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:44 pm
by walker111
Erik95LS wrote:Thats all I have too is a vafc. Yack can work wonders with em.

whats the story on the accord? where in oh?
Too bad yack is so far away!!

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:45 pm
by Erik95LS
walker111 wrote:Stupid question......whats a power fc?
standalone writeable computer from Apexi. They're version of the AEM EMS although they had theirs long before AEM. Thats what I'm going to get eventually. Its not really that expensive.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:46 pm
by walker111
Erik95LS wrote:
walker111 wrote:Stupid question......whats a power fc?
standalone writeable computer from Apexi. They're version of the AEM EMS although they had theirs long before AEM. Thats what I'm going to get eventually. Its not really that expensive.
Whats that mean?

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:46 pm
by walker111
I've only dealt with Hondata. The vafc has been sitting in my glove box for years.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:47 pm
by walker111
Erik, do you have some sort of tune on ur vafc?

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:50 pm
by Erik95LS
walker111 wrote:Erik, do you have some sort of tune on ur vafc?
yeah I do. I had Jack tune mine just so my car runs right. The obdII motor in an obdI chassis with a kenji P28 ran extremely rich, but now it runs very well and makes good power too.

PowerFC is between $500-$700 brand new depending on who you talk to. So once you add up the cost of all your stuff to set up hondata the difference isn't really that great for all the advantages of the PowerFC.

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:52 pm
by Erik95LS
Some info on it vs. the EMS from the man himself. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1228624

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:54 pm
by walker111
Erik95LS wrote:
walker111 wrote:Erik, do you have some sort of tune on ur vafc?
yeah I do. I had Jack tune mine just so my car runs right. The obdII motor in an obdI chassis with a kenji P28 ran extremely rich, but now it runs very well and makes good power too.

PowerFC is between $500-$700 brand new depending on who you talk to. So once you add up the cost of all your stuff to set up hondata the difference isn't really that great for all the advantages of the PowerFC.
I didnt realize you had obd1.. 5-7 isnt bad, you'd spend atleast 5 trying to get hondata...

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:55 pm
by walker111
How far away are you from Jack?

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:56 pm
by walker111
I talked to Brauning (tuner), he said it would take less than an hour to tune and is 90 bucks/hour

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:57 pm
by Erik95LS
walker111 wrote:How far away are you from Jack?
4 hours. you can't be much farther

Posted: September 19th, 2006, 12:59 pm
by Erik95LS
walker111 wrote:I talked to Brauning (tuner), he said it would take less than an hour to tune and is 90 bucks/hour
yeah it shouldn't take long at all. Its crazy seeing Jack tune. He does everything in a minute or two and it done and the car is running perfectly.