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walker111 wrote:

Bbasso wrote:

Erik95LS wrote:
first gen though? Why not a 2nd. Way better and not much price difference.

If I'm fixing a RX7 it's not about performance.. Even tho they are good, it's about the I have nothing to do factor.

Why dont joo buy a trans for the R!!!

Har har.. editing my words

And If I get a place that has NEW jdm R trans then I might just buy one...
I have a buyer for my current trans and with the sales of my old RX7 parts I just might have enough $ for a spankin new trans. But I'll need a clutch to go with it... Can't use the used one I have from DaveB, Even thou it's ok it's not worth keeping in there with a new trans.

Bbasso wrote:

walker111 wrote:

Bbasso wrote:

Erik95LS wrote:
first gen though? Why not a 2nd. Way better and not much price difference.

If I'm fixing a RX7 it's not about performance.. Even tho they are good, it's about the I have nothing to do factor.

Why dont joo buy a trans for the R!!!

Har har.. editing my words

And If I get a place that has NEW jdm R trans then I might just buy one...
I have a buyer for my current trans and with the sales of my old RX7 parts I just might have enough $ for a spankin new trans. But I'll need a clutch to go with it... Can't use the used one I have from DaveB, Even thou it's ok it's not worth keeping in there with a new trans.

ATS Carbon FTW!!!!!OMGJDMLOL!!!!!!WTF!!!!

I wasn't necesarily talking about performance either. I just like the 2nd gen tons more than the first.

Well just found out that we are approved on the new house to sign a lease through the Prop. Management place. They just need the owners approval now and we will be signing the lease tomorrow. I just reserved a Penske truck for Saturday all day. W0000T!

Anyone wanna come to Sacramento, Ca and help move? HAHA

Erik95LS wrote:One more big one.

I know where that is!!!

knowledge wrote:Well just found out that we are approved on the new house to sign a lease through the Prop. Management place. They just need the owners approval now and we will be signing the lease tomorrow. I just reserved a Penske truck for Saturday all day. W0000T!

Anyone wanna come to Sacramento, Ca and help move? HAHA

Congrats on getting it moved along!
Leasing a house? Property Management? Is this one of those "communites" where you can't even barbeque or cut down a tree without co-op approval?
Help with moving? Sure, I'll move the R for ya

corngrats knowledge!

buy me a ticket out there and i'll help

Congrats...

knowledge wrote:Well just found out that we are approved on the new house to sign a lease through the Prop. Management place. They just need the owners approval now and we will be signing the lease tomorrow. I just reserved a Penske truck for Saturday all day. W0000T!

Anyone wanna come to Sacramento, Ca and help move? HAHA

Count me in! I'll need a plane ticket, and mass quantitys o' Beer.

Congrats man. Just keep the dozer handy in case they try to give you the run around again.

Evening fellow whores. I can't wait for that version of GT4. On a side note, the Logitech GT25 900 degree wheel and CLUTCH'd, gated shifter set should be available. I'm going to get GTR2 as well, that should be fun and I can even drive Sebring!!! Woot.

Ok, I have a dilema too, I'll make another post here in the OT section though.

Ok, so I'm not going to start a new thread on it, only you guys' opinions count on this anyway.

So here's my delima. You guys know about the GS-R in LA that I might be purchasing. Well, it was brought to my attention today about another black GS-R here where I live. So I'll break it down for you guys and you can all help me decide what to do.

First up, the 2000 Black GS-R with OEM metal JDM front end, non-hid.

The chassis has 116k on it, decent condition with recent paint (about a year) but with that, the clear coat wasn't done great and it's starting to chip a little bit and peal. Not really a biggie though as I have a body guy here who would fix it and respray for only the cost of materials. This car has the bronze Mugen MF8's in 16" on it with Azenis 615's. It also has KYB adjustable shocks and I forget what springs on it. (PIC baby, I'll be changing to it on either car) This car also has a Skunk2 cat back, stock header/cat. The engine was recently torn down, new bearings, seals, water pump, timing belt. At the same time, the block was bored 25 over and oversized ITR pistons were installed. The compression check on this car was over 230 on all cylinders. It has an ITR shift knob and red stitched boot. Other than that, the car has leather interior and looks pretty good. The bad though is the car is a distance away and on top of the $9500 price tag, I have to fly out, another $350 and drive back, most likely another $100-$200. Then I still have to title the car and pay taxes on it so about another $800. So total on this car, registered, taged and on the road is about 11k.

Now, the new car that has come up. 98 Black GS-R USDM front end.

The chassis has 150k on it, has some minor body issues. The drivers side fender has a dent in at, as does the rear deck lid. Again though, not a big deal to me as the car would be repainted and repaired after I got it for fairly cheap. This car has a Spoon engine with only 26k on it and the owner has all of the paperwork and also used to be a Honda technician. The engine was ordered through Honda (we have a Honda parts place here where you can get any Spoon parts from) also installed is the ITR trans with a Quaffe differential. All paperwork is in place for the engine/trans and the diff. This car has the stock exhaust, with a test pipe instead of the cat, has KYB shocks and Tein S-tech springs. Cloth interior (I almost prefer that anyway and I'll have my Pole position that I can put in or some stock ITR seats) This car has bronze rims on it. Not really sure what kind yet as I haven't seen the car. The owner read off to me some raised writing on the rim that had a KG weight and the word "monoblock" on it. I can only presume what kind of possiblilities these rims are. They are 8 spoke and most likely some sort of Advan, Volk or something of the likes though the owner wasn't 100% sure. Tires are the Azenis 615's as well, but will need to be replaced soon, again no biggie. My dad drove this car today and says it feels great with no mechanical issues he could find/see. I'm going to go look at this car right when I get off work tomorrow and actually put 2 and 2 together on it. The price right now, though it may go lower is $8500. I dont' have to fly anywhere, and the registration is only 6% of that price. So I could basically have this car for 9k, save the other 2k and just get a JDM front end like I want anyway and have that all installed when I get the car painted and body work done.



So there ya have it, I know it's a lot but I have to figure out which route I want to go. Either car I will be putting $1500 down on so you can subtract that from the finance price of the vehicle. What are you thoughts. Reasons for one over the other? Suggestions? Input.

Thanks guys!!!

Buy a 4 door GSR

Bbasso wrote:Buy a 4 door GSR

I'm not a taxi and I have no family.

Even if either of those requirements were ever met, I'd still own a 2 door.

2 door > 4 door!!!!

Dave B in the house...Seriously.

Save your money and buy something else. You have a Type R racecar, don't buy a gsr. Buy a pickup to tow your racecar, enough of these integras. Did I just say this on a Type R forum?

ITR Factor wrote:Save your money and buy something else. You have a Type R racecar, don't buy a gsr. Buy a pickup to tow your racecar, enough of these integras. Did I just say this on a Type R forum?

Ha, I'd never had a DD truck again. Well, maybe a Lightning but I'll be doing a lot of driving with the new job so gas mileage is a factor as well. I surely don't want to drive this POS hatch all over the state so that leaves me with the option of buying a car I can put some miles on for the next year and then I'm going to look into something more... uh... along my lines. I really like integra's and now I'm a creature of habit with them. This would make my 5th integra. 93 LS, 96 GS-R, 01 ITR, 00 ITR and then another GS-R.

Oh, and to add fuel for thought to all of this. I have a few thoughts running through my head too.

The 2000 JDM front GS-R's motor would eventually go into the black Si hatch I have and a boosted motor would be built for that car. The 98 one, I'd take the Quaffe diff out and put it in my racecar. Then I'll have a spare diff (new) and the old diff back in the DD 98 GS-R.

I know, I know... It's a clusterfuk of shiz, but try to follow along. I'm in a family of many projects but it's what we do and it's what makes us happy. Stock is never good enough and eventually it's modified.

haha well what works for you then. I can see what you mean about the hatch. Oh question, where can I buy a cheap baffled oil pan, hoosiers and stock oil pan at sebring don't go well together, yet I didn't have problems last time I ran that setup.

ITR Factor wrote:haha well what works for you then. I can see what you mean about the hatch. Oh question, where can I buy a cheap baffled oil pan, hoosiers and stock oil pan at sebring don't go well together, yet I didn't have problems last time I ran that setup.

Did you just steal my avatar or am I just not right in the head at the moment?

As for the oil pan, I would personally either buy the Heel Toe baffles and weld them in yourself, or buy a Mugen pan. I've heard only bad things about aftermarket pans and leaking issues. The Mugen pan is a stock pan with baffles welded in. I think the pan only cost me like $180 and buy the time you sell your stock on for say $50 your only paying $130 for it.

Well, if it were me, this would be an easy decision. The 98 w/USDM front!
But for you, sir. I still think the 98 is best.

Sounds like you're going to be repainting some or all of either one anyways, so doing the JDM conversion yourself/bodyguy isn't a bad thing. Plus you'd KNOW the conversion was done properly. (Not that the other one wasn't done properly) And you've certainly had experience fixing up front ends

And even if you don't do the JDM conversion right away, look at what you'd still be driving...

A Spoon engine!! That should about seal the deal right there, IMO.

Quaiffe differential!

Plus it was maintained by a Honda Tech owner!!

And for $2500 less!! Holy smokes!!

It's not that I don't like JDM fronts, although they look like old Accords , I'm just not a fan of "conversions" If I wanted a JDM front Integra, I'd look into a full JDM RHD Integra, imported from Japan.

<--definitely would love a JDM ITR sedan someday

haha yeah this might confuse the hell outta someone. I might just buy the mugen one, really not looking forward to spending 200 bucks on an oil pan just to get the car on the track but whatever.

Doespike wrote:Well, if it were me, this would be an easy decision. The 98 w/USDM front!
But for you, sir. I still think the 98 is best.

Sounds like you're going to be repainting some or all of either one anyways, so doing the JDM conversion yourself/bodyguy isn't a bad thing. Plus you'd KNOW the conversion was done properly. (Not that the other one wasn't done properly) And you've certainly had experience fixing up front ends

And even if you don't do the JDM conversion right away, look at what you'd still be driving...

A Spoon engine!! That should about seal the deal right there, IMO.

Quaiffe differential!

Plus it was maintained by a Honda Tech owner!!

And for $2500 less!! Holy smokes!!

It's not that I don't like JDM fronts, although they look like old Accords , I'm just not a fan of "conversions" If I wanted a JDM front Integra, I'd look into a full JDM RHD Integra, imported from Japan.

<--definitely would love a JDM ITR sedan someday

For me, I agree I'd love to have a registered JDM integra but the likelyhood of that happening are slim at this moment. For the past year or so, I've looked at all the Black JDM fronted ITR's and really want one with no spoiler with bronze rims. Both of these cars are close to what I want.

As for the spoon engine, eh it really doesn't do much for me. Hell, if I get that car I may sell that engine. Then build a boosted motor for the car. So many decisions. As for the Quaffe diff, yeah it would be great to go into my car.

Well, if you're gonna tear out the motor of either GSR, then you could still get a pretty penny for selling the Spoon motor, on top of the lower price for the car to begin with = good deal to me. As for the wheels, this decision may be easier once you find out what wheels the 98 really has.

Doespike wrote:Well, if you're gonna tear out the motor of either GSR, then you could still get a pretty penny for selling the Spoon motor, on top of the lower price for the car to begin with = good deal to me. As for the wheels, this decision may be easier once you find out what wheels the 98 really has.

Yeah, most likely either way the engine will be coming out of either car. The spoon engine, only reason it's somewhat appealing to me is the low mileage on it, but then again after the rebuild on the other car, it's only got about 3k on it with a 12k/12month warrenty.

I'd have to go with the 98 also. It definitely seems like the best choice.