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itrsteez wrote:

CivicBeater wrote:

itrsteez wrote:

CivicBeater wrote:All you had to say was, no I don't want to camp with your faggot ass.

hahaha, I didn't say that at all. It's the female variable, it seems like they have to screen each other before doing overnight events... I'm not sure if your wife is like that, but if not then she's a normal one.

I understand. One reason we need to do a double date. We can both wear our helmets to dinner and only speak through our communicators. This way we can drone the women out.

haha, we're planning our housewarming party (because that's what you do after 2 years) it will be Jersey shore themed so bring your ed hardy and an appetite for powerbars. Will probably be later in the summer. It goes without saying but that invite is extended to all here.

LULZ.

P.S. I know it's a bit overkill, however has anyone ever played around with big brake upgrade kits?

A number of people have gone with Spoon brakes which help in fade resistance but not so much in stopping power. The ITR stock brakes are pretty awesome. I doubt I'll ever big-brake-kit the caR...waste of $$ that could be spent on track fees and gas

The sp00m's are still an improvement in stopping power over stock clappers though, right? That's on my dream list of bling parts but can't necessarily justify it yet.

Ballpark, how much is the Spoon set-up?

CivicBeater wrote:Ballpark, how much is the Spoon set-up?

around $1500 for the front calipers

Front - NSX calipers (better pad wear), old Cobalt Spec-VRs, but they'll be done by Expo
Rear - GT Sports, Hawk HP+, etc.
Super Blue Fluid

^^What exactly are the GT Sports?

Discontinued brake pads by Cobalt.

I'm vintage. Still have some 215 Azenis too...

Doespike wrote:Discontinued brake pads by Cobalt.

Thanks. NSX Calipers sound like a reasonable upgrade. Rough Cost?

You don't need to update anything on a stock ITR really. I had these calipers from my old GSR and used to convert to my 96-spec to 98-spec size brakes.

i don't find that the spoons decrease your stopping distances at all

what i do notice is that its not an on/off switch like the stock brakes
what i also notice is my pads wear ALOT more evenly

they are also half the weight (unsprung) of the stock calipers, pair them with a set of 10lb wheels and you've just secure 1st place in an HPDE

worth $1500? thats a personal decision

Makes complete sense to me. I'd say that the NSX calipers fall somewhere inbetween the Spoons and stock single-piston ITR in terms of brake feeling. I haven't driven Spoon calipers on track though, only around town.

BlueR wrote:i don't find that the spoons decrease your stopping distances at all

what i do notice is that its not an on/off switch like the stock brakes
what i also notice is my pads wear ALOT more evenly

they are also half the weight (unsprung) of the stock calipers, pair them with a set of 10lb wheels and you've just secure 1st place in an HPDE

worth $1500? thats a personal decision

Yeah the modulation and pad wear are the only pros (IMO, the weight, eh whatever, it's a friggen street car that does HPDEs and autocross also) for the Spoons. That's not to say I don't want a set, I just need to get a large supply of BBQ paint to keep repainting them black every few months.

Hmmm Great info. You guys haven't mentioned that along with winning HPDE's you'll also win the annual street car show at your nearby Harris Teeter with the Spoons.

CivicBeater wrote:Hmmm Great info. You guys haven't mentioned that along with winning HPDE's you'll also win the annual street car show at your nearby Harris Teeter with the Spoons.

Nah painted black you loose the show points.. and they are a harder to spot target to thieves, and I really hate the blue.. but either way, ghetto painted calipers = no show ka winz.

As an added benefit, you make the cali kids cry about you painting $1,500 calipers with $2 can of bbq paint.

That part sustains some serious resale value, I don't think I'd be able to paint them for that fact alone. It is one of those bling parts I hope to snatch off somebody when they're desperate for money after they just lost the car show.

itrsteez wrote:That part sustains some serious resale value, I don't think I'd be able to paint them for that fact alone. It is one of those bling parts I hope to snatch off somebody when they're desperate for money after they just lost the car show.

x2. Not sure that I could paint over $1,500 calipers.

itrsteez wrote:That part sustains some serious resale value, I don't think I'd be able to paint them for that fact alone. It is one of those bling parts I hope to snatch off somebody when they're desperate for money after they just lost the car show.

Unfortunately (or fortuntely in your example) the BBQ paint wears off pretty quickly, and the smurf blue shows up again, requiring fairly frequent repaints.

However, I'm not sure I'd ever bother selling them seperately, unless I was selling the car also. Since I have no intention of ever doing that (hell I constantly change my mind on selling my rusty, beat the f up, GS-R) I'm not worried about resale at all The NSX or spoon calipers are definately an upgrade I want to do though at some point, it's just not as important as other crap.

Meh on the Spoons IMO. I had a pair and didn't notice shit at the track. I ended up selling them to a good friend down souf'. All the benefits mentioned are true but not worth it IMO.

Pads are everything when it comes to stopping power. Higher boiling point fluid helps also. ATe and Motul 5.1 are fine. The ITR isn't known for boiling fluid but it does happen. Blank rotors all the way. Don't waste money on pricey stoptech/brembo/etc rotors.

My track set-up: Cobalt GTS pads front and rear, blank rotors front and rear, Motul 5.1 fluid and ss lines.
My street set-up: OEM pads front and rear, Brembo slotted rotors front, Stoptech slotted rotors rear, same fluid and lines.

I actually mated my Spoon klapperz to the GTS pads and Brembo/Stoptech rotors a couple years ago thinking that I was gonna out stop a Porsche. While there is nothing wrong with the above set-up(besides the price. haha) it is un-needed. I went back to the stock calipers, GTS pads and blank rotors and noticed no change, better or worse, compared to the Spoon bling set-up. Why spend the $$$ for little to no improvement?

Another thing to note is that pads and rotors should be matched up. That means it's best to have a front pad/rotor set-up as well as a different street pad/rotor set-up. This ensures that the pad will seat properly to the rotor and the wear will be decently even. I go to the extreme and have a complete front and rear pad and rotor set-up for both track and the street, but the fronts are doing most of the work so the changing out the rears isn't as necessary.

Hope this helps and good luck out there!!

lulz...

Spoon Clappers, SS lines, Spec VR up front and GT's out back (old compound) and ATE SuperBlue fluid.

Haven't had enough time on track with the bling to tell you definitively any difference.

itrsteez wrote:The sp00m's are still an improvement in stopping power over stock clappers though, right?

Nope. All they are are lighter, give better pad wear, and most importantly better pedal modulation over the stock brakes. and oh....trumping all of those combined of course is the look of them.

Guess I should add. Sp00m klappers with Cobalt XR2s in front and new GTS in rear. autozone blanks, SS lines, and ATe SuperbRue.

Chris if you're not outbraking street driven porsches with that setup you're doing something wrong

Since it hasn't been mentioned...track time does a pretty good job of painting your calipers for you.

coolhandluke wrote:Since it hasn't been mentioned...track time does a pretty good job of painting your calipers for you.

as well as greatly improving your cars ability to brake.

All this talk about pads, but looks to be forgotten that tires play a huge role in braking.

Anyhoo, I have XR2's ft, GTS's r with ATE Super blue soon to be Motul 600 with OEM rotors. It is a little aggressive for street tires but I can dig it.