Expo 11 - Possible Event Location

[R00567]

button willow = bad ass course , that will not disappoint!

D O P E! California would be so sick, and there is a F ton of ITR's guys if you post this in their local foums and let them know. i think the regular expo crew + the cali peeps would be a 50+ car turnout easy!

i give a two thumbs WAY the F up for this location x 2

and to R box i dont hard park so GTFO

[cheezthis]

button willow = bad ass course , that will not disappoint!

D O P E! California would be so sick, and there is a F ton of ITR's guys if you post this in their local foums and let them know. i think the regular expo crew + the cali peeps would be a 50+ car turnout easy!

i give a two thumbs WAY the F up for this location x 2

and to R box i dont hard park so GTFO

Do you think many people will track their cars in that count? I imagine we'll lose some east and midwest track participation simply due to the distance, even if the people still show up via flying. This is where the west coast will really need to step up.

I'm all for a trip to California, but I want to make sure this will work for the event's best interests. It could be a huge year, or it could slip us from our current high of this past year's event, where we had over 200 people there (no idea on final count honestly).

The potential is obviously there, especially with HPD's participation.

[TealTuna]

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[itrsteez]

I'm all for a trip to California, but I want to make sure this will work for the event's best interests. It could be a huge year, or it could slip us from our current high of this past year's event, where we had over 200 people there (no idea on final count honestly).

The potential is obviously there, especially with HPD's participation.

I agree with this fully. I think the concept of it sounds cool but once it came down to it people would be dropping like flies. The west coast participation is a HUGE gamble, but you might get some future diehards out of that group. So it's hard to say.

Or you can have it at CMP and have $150 registration fees kidding, I don't want to open up the can of worms.

[itr #1334]

This will be obvious more difficult to commit till we full details. For me its a 2100 mile drive one way. Not worried about the drive just about school and getting time off. I would have to take over a week off instead of a few days. I however think this would be a great opportunity and sounds like a great place. Them hard parked west coasters will have to step up. I see all them post saying expo expo expo but its to far to drive. Hope its not just all talk. Pick a date and location and ill be there if not tracking hanging out.

[turbohf]

just curious as i have never been to an EXPO... but how does security work? i would really not like to have my R in socal for 2 days lol.

about 19hr 1146miles.

[R-box]

and to R box i dont hard park so GTFO

I'll belief it when I see you at Expo, trackin'! ZING-BAAAH!

Do you think many people will track their cars in that count? I imagine we'll lose some east and midwest track participation simply due to the distance, even if the people still show up via flying. This is where the west coast will really need to step up.

I'm all for a trip to California, but I want to make sure this will work for the event's best interests. It could be a huge year, or it could slip us from our current high of this past year's event, where we had over 200 people there (no idea on final count honestly).

The potential is obviously there, especially with HPD's participation.

Yeah, we should really post this "Expo 11 in Cali" idea in some of the West coast forums, like NOW, to gauge their interest, otherwise, we'll probably just get alot of people saying they'll go "if it's official", but not really committing. Sorry to "rat on" my own coast, but, well...

Or you can have it at CMP and have $150 registration fees kidding, I don't want to open up the can of worms.

I would SO go to an Expo at CMP! HAHA - I've hung out there a few times while you hookers tracked and I was always itchin' to take a car out!

just curious as i have never been to an EXPO... but how does security work? i would really not like to have my R in socal for 2 days lol.

During Expo, you don't really have to worry about your car - unless you go off and park somewhere by yourself or something. There's always SO many cars, or people awake and milling around, or (if the track allows it), you can leave it parked at the track and hitch a ride with somebody else to the hotel - like I did one night this year, simply because I was lazy, haha.

[R-box]

Also, for you East coasters, I just wanted to let you know you'll need, at minimum, 6 days off of work. 2 to drive out, 2 for Expo, 2 to drive home -- that's the most hardcore method though. We usually like to do it like: 2 to drive out, 1 free day before Expo to hang out, 2 at Expo, 3 to drive home cuz we're tired; but we plan it this way ahead of time and save/work extra to accommodate monies, haha.

Don't forget: you can ask R peeps along the way for free lodging -or- camp out -or- sleep in your cars (yes, with all of your stuff, haha) to save money. illMitch offered us a place to stay on the way to/from Expo this year even though he wasn't attending - which was very generous on his part; we would've if it had lined up better w/our trip progress, but yeah.

Sorry if this seems like a weird post, just trying to be reassuring for the East coast peeps.

[itrsteez]

button willow = bad ass course , that will not disappoint!

D O P E! California would be so sick, and there is a F ton of ITR's guys if you post this in their local foums and let them know. i think the regular expo crew + the cali peeps would be a 50+ car turnout easy!

i give a two thumbs WAY the F up for this location x 2

and to R box i dont hard park so GTFO

This is for willow springs, not button willow. And it will take much more than 50 cars to make it a success. I do love the idea of RTR cars and HC.

Honestly the more and more I think about it I don't think I could justify the trip. For the highway miles and travel time needed I could hit barber, road america or the glen on separate occasions and still have hours/miles to spare. Not trying to be a debbie downer, but I think when it came down to registration time and wasn't a pipe dream anymore it would then seem rather unrealistic for me personally. Maybe perhaps if there were dates at infineon/laguna/miller (on the way there or way back) that a few of us could hit then the scales would be tipped a lot if two birds could be killed with one stone.

I give much credit for thinking outside the box, I don't need to spew out a negative sounding post but after I had a few days to stew the idea I stopped liking it as much. I'm just glad you guys decided not to stop at 10.

[redzcstandardhatch]

i'll be there. i need to take my car to california.

jay, lets get our cars t california.

[Erik95LS]

Honestly the more and more I think about it I don't think I could justify the trip. For the highway miles and travel time needed I could hit barber, road america or the glen on separate occasions and still have hours/miles to spare. Not trying to be a debbie downer, but I think when it came down to registration time and wasn't a pipe dream anymore it would then seem rather unrealistic for me personally. Maybe perhaps if there were dates at infineon/laguna/miller (on the way there or way back) that a few of us could hit then the scales would be tipped a lot if two birds could be killed with one stone.

Expo is not just a random track event like those others. Honestly the track time is the smallest part of Expo for me. Thats why a trip like this does not compare at all with going to a closer track for less money. It's not about the track time. (that's just a bonus).

[TurboLS]

Expo was my first event and I think it continues to be the first event for a lot of folks because of the culture and the people present.

Depending on how things go, I may even bring a second car and raffle off driver's spots in that car to help the guys who can't afford to buy/fix a car that passes tech participate...

I also agree on a multiple west-coast event idea. Maybe have one expo, but then those that drove so far could go to another event a day or two later... I was trying to hook this up at Autobahn followed by Gingerman this time around, but I didn't have the track car...

[Little_Nolan]

This would be awesome! I know there would be a few of us from AZ that will attend

Will be there with this tard ^ as usual

[B18CXr]

Seriously, driving Mulholland Drive is worth the trip alone... IMHO.

West coast = !!!

[Dave_B]

Cali would be practically Unpossible for me. I would LOVE to do it, and would love to see it happen out there. But when it comes down to it, getting a week off (Even if I don't drive the event, I'd want to drive to it) would be difficult.

I sure hope this comes through!!!

[Bradstard]

Does anyone know of a place that you can rent a track car in So Cal?

[itrsteez]

Does anyone know of a place that you can rent a track car in So Cal?

http://www.hertz.com/

But in all seriousness, pop on the nasa boards, I know there are pinned threads there in regards to track cars for rent.

[Bradstard]

I've heard that the Hertz Corvette's and Mustang's have GPS modules in them and if they notice a car doing a track event they will send a remote shutdown to the car. Any validity to this?

[itrsteez]

I've heard that the Hertz Corvette's and Mustang's have GPS modules in them and if they notice a car doing a track event they will send a remote shutdown to the car. Any validity to this?

I've heard it but never seen it. Would provide much lulz.

Should be safe with a PT Cruiser.

[CivicBeater]

I've heard that the Hertz Corvette's and Mustang's have GPS modules in them and if they notice a car doing a track event they will send a remote shutdown to the car. Any validity to this?

I've heard it but never seen it. Would provide much lulz.

Should be safe with a PT Cruiser.

I don't see how anyone would opt for anything other than a focus after our demonstration @ Expo.

[coolhandluke]

I know ROR has proven that rent-a-cars can be fast on track.

[Jon D]

Honestly the more and more I think about it I don't think I could justify the trip. For the highway miles and travel time needed I could hit barber, road america or the glen on separate occasions and still have hours/miles to spare. Not trying to be a debbie downer, but I think when it came down to registration time and wasn't a pipe dream anymore it would then seem rather unrealistic for me personally. Maybe perhaps if there were dates at infineon/laguna/miller (on the way there or way back) that a few of us could hit then the scales would be tipped a lot if two birds could be killed with one stone.

I give much credit for thinking outside the box, I don't need to spew out a negative sounding post but after I had a few days to stew the idea I stopped liking it as much. I'm just glad you guys decided not to stop at 10.

I appreciate what i would consider a very honest and much needed response. Everyone is still very excited from EXPO in July, and this is very understandable. However, you must ask yourself if you are willing to undertake a major roadtrip. Each and every one of us needs to evaluate a significant set of questions that you have not probably had to think about pre other EXPOs. While i too am very excited about the opportunity, i would challenge each of you to answer the following very carefully.....

1. Can i afford to pay...........?
a) for registration
b) to drive 6k miles
c) for incidentals outside of ones control
d) for a room if not sleeping in car or camping along the way
e) to eat out every single day for a solid week
f) for the necessary tolls, oil changes, misc costs

2. Can i count on work approving me the extended time needed to make this trip feasible?

3. Am i willing to spend what might be the majority or all of my vacation time in a car?

4. Am i mechanically inclined enough to embark on a 6k mile journey confidentally anticipating car troubles that could present themselves along the way?

5. Will my wife/gf/husband/bf want to kill me if i ask her to go or let me go on a 6k mile road trip? Does it matter?

6. Am i prepared to drive 6k miles without cruise control, maybe no A/C, in a lowered car, with an exhaust, that tachs high rpms at cruising speed (80 mph)?


Many of you are extremely dedicated to this community and this event, we know this. However, this consideration should be taken very very seriously. We volunteer our time to try and make this event very special each and every year, and we know how much each and every one of you appreciates that. Without you guys this event does NOT take place, and because of that we are forced to evaluate this idea with extreme care. With that being said, if you are going to reply YES I WILL BE THERE, please understand that you as an individual could make or break this idea from being a success.

We appreciate everyone's continued support and look forward to reading additional responses. Do not be afraid to speak up/out with concerns or legitame questions you guys have. If you have suggestions, this is also the time to speak up. We are not going to flame or make fun of anything said, so ask away if you all have questions.

Best,
- Jon D

[00TypeR1071]

Many of you are extremely dedicated to this community and this event, we know this. However, this consideration should be taken very very seriously. We volunteer our time to try and make this event very special each and every year, and we know how much each and every one of you appreciates that. Without you guys this event does NOT take place, and because of that we are forced to evaluate this idea with extreme care. With that being said, if you are going to reply YES I WILL BE THERE, please understand that you as an individual could make or break this idea from being a success.

We appreciate everyone's continued support and look forward to reading additional responses. Do not be afraid to speak up/out with concerns or legitame questions you guys have. If you have suggestions, this is also the time to speak up. We are not going to flame or make fun of anything said, so ask away if you all have questions.

Best,
- Jon D

Well said Jon

As of now there is no way I can say for sure that I will be there .
As some of you know I'm getting married on July 2nd next year and we are planning on going for a 10 day honeymoon so vacation time might be an issue (I will get 13 days total + few more if I suck up really good) plus I would not be able to make it if the Expo would be within 2-3 weeks prior the wedding date (to much to plan and there is always something last minute, no matter how well you plan things)..... so yeah...that would be my story.

Cheers!

[coolhandluke]

I'm enough of a nut to say I'l be there. Period. I'm even more of a nut to say that unless something life altering happens out of my control, I'l be there in my car driving.

[R-box]

Expo is not just a random track event like those others. Honestly the track time is the smallest part of Expo for me. Thats why a trip like this does not compare at all with going to a closer track for less money. It's not about the track time. (that's just a bonus).

I agree that Expo isn't all about the track time - that's just bonus "play time with friends" haha

I mean think about it, we few West Coasters that keep driving out plan all the aspects ahead of time to make it work.

Every time I go to Expo, I literally break my bank, haha, but why do I go? THE PEEPS! THE EXPERIENCE!! When I'm older, I don't ever wanna be like, "Man, I didn't go to any Expos because I 'couldn't justify the trip'." If that were the case, I'd never make it to ANY Expo simply based on where I live vs. where they're held. In fact, every year, I tell myself that the trip (cost, time, what-have-you) is realistically unjustifiable - but then I end up showing up and having the time of my life and it's worth it.

You guys also have it really lucky in that alot of you R peeps get together multiple times a year, so maybe that's playing into your "West Coast Expo isn't that justifiable" feelings. The culture out here is so different, that for us to have that in-person R-camaraderie, we almost have to drive thousands of miles, etc.

And I think the East Coasters also have to keep in mind that the majority of the past and future Expos will be Mid-to-Eastern US locations; so why miss out on this one West Coast "extravaganza" because it's not a typical type of trip, or track days, etc.? (Steez - the things you said remind me alot of what West Coast people say about expo and why they won't attend.)

I'm not trying to start any argument here, nor am I writing in an angry tone, just thinking out loud. I know I don't regret getting to track VIR and ACC. Who knows if I'll ever get to track VIR again - it's so far! But at least I have that, "Yeaaah, it was a bad-ass trip and track experience!" memory.