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Posted: November 17th, 2006, 5:29 pm
by Black_R
George Knighton wrote: I opened up the PM file, and IMHO you did go overboard. You frustrated him by continuing to argue instead of shutting up or just asking me what was going on.

I am confused by the time stamps. It seems to me that some of your IM conversation with him took place after you talked to me and after I had edited and moved your thread.

Are you sure you weren't trying to be deliberately provocative?

I don't deny that. I enjoy a good debate, and have no problem with such. You feel I was overboard? Why? Because him telling me that is the end of the discussion wasn't good enough for me? I WANTED him to be frustrated - I hoped that would spur him into an intelligent debate opponent. There is a basic set of rules and framework there - yet I violated NONE OF THEM. I was banned for THREATS TO MODERATOR when there was none.

Yes, I continued to converse via pm with him after you moved my thread. I needed to understand WHY my thread was locked - and don't give me that 'lack of tech' excuse when there are MANY MANY threads like that floating around there. Whether deliberately provocative or not, that's TRUTH. I'm sorry if that mod can't inteligently debate nor defend his actions beyond a canned response of 'no tech, end of discussion.'

What about the lack of notification? How hard is it to drop a pm saying 'please edit your thred to reflect some tech info as it is required in this forum," or ''i'm moving your thread to GDD for lack of technical info,' instead of just a lock without warning? Whatever happened to general courtesy? That's what I have a problem with! Ooh, and if I happen to have a lack of courtesy for a mod, then it's BAN. It's not good to see that the forums that we call home are rife with double standards.

I'm a moderator on another board, and act pretty much the same there that I do on h-t. Hell, I act that same way on h-t. I DO have trouble respecting anyone who hides behind their mod status - on the freaking internet for crissake - instead of intelligently conducting a civil debate.

So do h-t mods have noone to defend their actions to?

Posted: November 19th, 2006, 9:30 pm
by neo_
Join the club...

Posted: November 19th, 2006, 11:37 pm
by walker111
neo_ wrote:Join the club...
lol

Posted: November 20th, 2006, 9:47 pm
by George Knighton
Black R is unbanned.

Posted: November 20th, 2006, 9:55 pm
by George Knighton
George Knighton wrote:Black R is unbanned.
Please do not pick a fight, either. :)

Posted: November 21st, 2006, 11:10 pm
by Black_R
thanks!

it looks like i'm still banned though..... unless i have to log out and then back in?

*edit*

Looks like my post count got reset to 1000 from 15000 too? :?

And I don't even know what my password is... guess it got changed too?

Posted: November 24th, 2006, 12:17 am
by Jan Niemi
Black_R wrote: spur him into an intelligent debate opponent.
There is a whole lot of information and mis-information on HT, but very little wisdom, and intelligence is even more rare. :)

Posted: November 25th, 2006, 1:08 pm
by George Knighton
Jan Niemi wrote: There is a whole lot of information and mis-information on HT, but very little wisdom, and intelligence is even more rare. :)
Alas, these seem to be symptoms of the Web, in general.

Posted: November 25th, 2006, 1:48 pm
by itrsteez
Black_R wrote:Looks like my post count got reset to 1000 from 15000 too? :?
Pathetic, that's why I don't venture out of zeroforum/8