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Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 8:30 am
by Willard

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 9:00 am
by jgirard
splat wrote:
elambz wrote:but the fact that they tell us we HAVE to have it.
Maybe I'm dense, but what difference does SD vs HD make with satellite signal strength?
there's a huge difference, NHL games in HD is pure win

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 9:47 am
by CivicBeater
Good morning from Miami. On the way to Key west here in about 10 minutes. Woot Woot!

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 9:52 am
by Doespike
Awesome 8) Wish I were elsewhere..

Mornin'

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 10:27 am
by itrsteez
CivicBeater wrote:Good morning from Miami. On the way to Key west here in about 10 minutes. Woot Woot!
smuggling in some relatives?

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 10:36 am
by tartje
After you've watched Blu-Ray, DVD just doesn't cut it anymore.

Does bug me when people buy all-singing, all-dancing TVs and then have crappy cables and signals going into them, then complaining that it looks horrible and they thought HD TVs were supposed to be good.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 10:39 am
by itrsteez
tartje wrote:After you've watched Blu-Ray, DVD just doesn't cut it anymore.

Does bug me when people buy all-singing, all-dancing TVs and then have crappy cables and signals going into them, then complaining that it looks horrible and they thought HD TVs were supposed to be good.
Sometimes all of that extra definition looks weird for actual films, it seems awkward at times. I'm sure it just takes getting used to. I think it looks awesome for sports/anything originally shot on video or animated films. I have yet to watch footage out of my 5d on a 1080p TV, I'm curious of that level of awesome.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 10:41 am
by elambz
I was watching Die Hard 2 with 240hz the other week and that shit was tripping me out until we turned it down off high setting. Anything other than sports looks crazy in 240hz.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 11:17 am
by Willard

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 11:34 am
by cheezthis
All of the Hz talk is really marketing and image processors that try to create film frames that do not exist. Hollywood films at 24 Hz (Europe is 25 Hz). We use 60 Hz, so 3:2 pulldown was the norm for N. America. Pioneer changed the trend when their plasmas would use 72 Hz (3x24) for an even frame reproduction. LCDs went 120 Hz (5x24), but had to add an extra piece of marketing/sales stuff. Turn the image processors off, or in case of a Samsung with 240 Hz, change it Custom and turn judder off.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 11:48 am
by 98spec022
elambz wrote:I was watching Die Hard 2 with 240hz the other week and that shit was tripping me out until we turned it down off high setting. Anything other than sports looks crazy in 240hz.
Yeah i have this problem with high-refresh TVs too, movies look totally fake during certain scenes. It takes me right out of the movie.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 12:41 pm
by elambz
cheezthis wrote:All of the Hz talk is really marketing and image processors that try to create film frames that do not exist. Hollywood films at 24 Hz (Europe is 25 Hz). We use 60 Hz, so 3:2 pulldown was the norm for N. America. Pioneer changed the trend when their plasmas would use 72 Hz (3x24) for an even frame reproduction. LCDs went 120 Hz (5x24), but had to add an extra piece of marketing/sales stuff. Turn the image processors off, or in case of a Samsung with 240 Hz, change it Custom and turn judder off.
We dropped it down to low and it looked way better. Got rid of the fakeness and just made it look a little better IMO. I'm very happy with my plasma that doesn't have the image processors.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 12:53 pm
by splat
jgirard wrote:
splat wrote:
elambz wrote:but the fact that they tell us we HAVE to have it.
Maybe I'm dense, but what difference does SD vs HD make with satellite signal strength?
there's a huge difference, NHL games in HD is pure win
Not what I was asking at all - we've had HD cable for years.

Guy said DirectTV is forcing him to get an HD box vs a standard box "because of poor satellite reception." That's what I was asking - how that could make a difference.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 12:56 pm
by splat
98spec022 wrote:
elambz wrote:I was watching Die Hard 2 with 240hz the other week and that shit was tripping me out until we turned it down off high setting. Anything other than sports looks crazy in 240hz.
Yeah i have this problem with high-refresh TVs too, movies look totally fake during certain scenes. It takes me right out of the movie.
I've noticed that on the demo reels as well. For the first ten times I saw the "Speed" demo, I thought they were advertising a documentary about the making of "Speed." :shock:

I swear you can see the guide rope for the bus on BD.

<-- Has a BD player, has yet to watch a BD movie :lol:

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 2:06 pm
by cheezthis
elambz wrote:
cheezthis wrote:All of the Hz talk is really marketing and image processors that try to create film frames that do not exist. Hollywood films at 24 Hz (Europe is 25 Hz). We use 60 Hz, so 3:2 pulldown was the norm for N. America. Pioneer changed the trend when their plasmas would use 72 Hz (3x24) for an even frame reproduction. LCDs went 120 Hz (5x24), but had to add an extra piece of marketing/sales stuff. Turn the image processors off, or in case of a Samsung with 240 Hz, change it Custom and turn judder off.
We dropped it down to low and it looked way better. Got rid of the fakeness and just made it look a little better IMO. I'm very happy with my plasma that doesn't have the image processors.
Yep! My main tv is Pioneer plasma, and it's great. Bedroom has a Samsung 950 series, with the image processors off.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 2:19 pm
by elambz
I'm poor, so I've got a 50in 550 series Samsung. No fancy internet TV stuff or anything else, but it works great for me.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 2:23 pm
by cheezthis
I'm poor too, just have nice discounts available to me :P

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 2:28 pm
by elambz
Psssssh. You've got a mad tyte JDM ITR and a Pioneer plasma. Thats super baller status.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 2:36 pm
by white rocket
jgirard wrote:NHL games in HD is pure win
Absolutely!!! You can actually follow the puck and see jersey numbers.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 3:45 pm
by jgirard
splat wrote:
jgirard wrote:
splat wrote:
elambz wrote:but the fact that they tell us we HAVE to have it.
Maybe I'm dense, but what difference does SD vs HD make with satellite signal strength?
there's a huge difference, NHL games in HD is pure win
Not what I was asking at all - we've had HD cable for years.

Guy said DirectTV is forcing him to get an HD box vs a standard box "because of poor satellite reception." That's what I was asking - how that could make a difference.
oh ok, I thought you were asking if HD was that much better then SD :lol:

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 3:54 pm
by coolhandluke
98spec022 wrote: Yeah i have this problem with high-refresh TVs too, movies look totally fake during certain scenes. It takes me right out of the movie.
Yup, this totally ruined Waynes World the last time I watched it. My current tv is circa May 2006 but Blu-Ray movies look awesome so I'm happy. I'm not paying for HD cable service so I don't have to worry about it. It was cool to learn about the image processor tricks though!

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 6:01 pm
by Dave_B
I need to update the firmware on my BD player and optimize my TV... but I has been lazy. LOL.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 6:02 pm
by cheezthis
I can calibrate it if I'm around :P I'm ISF-certified.

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 6:16 pm
by Dave_B
So when were you coming to SC for some MTB riding again? I'd love to have it optimized!

Re: The OT place for OGs to BS w/o BS.

Posted: May 6th, 2010, 6:35 pm
by coolhandluke
Or we could just drink beer. :P