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Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 11th, 2010, 8:01 pm
by white rocket
Erik: The GT3 and RS was what I had in mind when I made that comment since there are a few up here that track regularly. If I'm outbraked by a Boxster I'm driving my caR off a cliff. haha.

Comp is totally right. Brakes are 100% tire limited. Definitely something to factor in when thinking about what set-up to run.

FWIW, I run RA1's on track and Kumho SPT's on the street.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 11th, 2010, 8:34 pm
by Erik95LS
white rocket wrote:Erik: The GT3 and RS was what I had in mind when I made that comment since there are a few up here that track regularly. If I'm outbraked by a Boxster I'm driving my caR off a cliff. haha.

Comp is totally right. Brakes are 100% tire limited. Definitely something to factor in when thinking about what set-up to run.

FWIW, I run RA1's on track and Kumho SPT's on the street.
I know I was just poking fun :P

yeah tires definitely do play the biggest role. No matter what your brakes can do if your tires can't you're not stopping.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 11th, 2010, 11:01 pm
by coolhandluke
Comp97GSR wrote:All this talk about pads, but looks to be forgotten that tires play a huge role in braking.

Anyhoo, I have XR2's ft, GTS's r with ATE Super blue soon to be Motul 600 with OEM rotors. It is a little aggressive for street tires but I can dig it.
You say that but you don't mention what tires you are using in your setup. :wink:
*Haven't you been running R-comps the past two Expo's?

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 12:12 am
by itrsteez
Erik95LS wrote:
itrsteez wrote:The sp00m's are still an improvement in stopping power over stock clappers though, right?
Nope. All they are are lighter, give better pad wear, and most importantly better pedal modulation over the stock brakes. and oh....trumping all of those combined of course is the look of them. 8) 8) 8)

Guess I should add. Sp00m klappers with Cobalt XR2s in front and new GTS in rear. autozone blanks, SS lines, and ATe SuperbRue.

Chris if you're not outbraking street driven porsches with that setup you're doing something wrong :P
I'm glad there is no valid reason for me to get a set or I would have convinced myself otherwise by now.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 6:12 am
by Comp97GSR
Yes Luke, which is why I use XR2's. This year first session or 2 will be on Hankook RS2's.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 1:04 pm
by Willard
ATE "blue" fluid for all autos...

ITR: (stock rotor and caliper)
Front - VR's (also used blues/porterfield/xp/etc.)
Rear - OEM

Civic: (stock front rotor and caliper / GSR rear rotor and caliper)
Front - Panther+ (soon I will be able to rock a "vintage set" of VR's) :wink:
Rear - OEM

Picture whore time (since I have not used these enough...)
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Shields are removable... and removal is highly suggested
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Yea... Autozone rotors suxzor. :roll:
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I have been thru a set or 2 of pads/rotors. :lol:
It sure was fun making Franza scream like a little girl and shit is pants at T14 (VIR-F)... :P

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 1:10 pm
by CivicBeater
Yikes!

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 1:21 pm
by cheezthis
Yeah!!!
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Never did crack all the way with the Legend rotor :)

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 1:32 pm
by Doespike
haha, I have a single crack like in Will's 3rd pic on one of my track rotors. Luve me some Vatozones :)

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 2:14 pm
by CivicBeater
I've quickly realized that I need to catch up on track time, you whores!

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 3:00 pm
by Doespike
Better stocks up on tyres..
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and brake pads, and fluids, and monies for gas/fees :P

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 3:20 pm
by CivicBeater
Sweet mother!

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 4:29 pm
by Dave_B
Forgot to mention, I also run the Legend rotors.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 12th, 2010, 5:25 pm
by Comp97GSR
My DD uses whatever Cobalt sells, Legend rotors.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 15th, 2010, 4:27 pm
by Humpie56
Wow talk about Thread Jacking

My Current Brake Setup:

Hawk HPS Pads
Stoptech Sportstop Slotted Rotors
ATE Super Blue or ATE Typ 200 depending on the fluid change since they are the same and it's easier to tell when all the fluid is fresh!!

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 15th, 2010, 6:09 pm
by R-box
- stock calipers
- ATE SuperBlue and Type 200 (every other change)
- Azenis 615 tires track and street

Front:
- AutoZone blank rotors
- Cobalt XR3's (XR2's on hand for when XR3's run out/or just for Expo!)

Rear:
- possibly stock rotors? if so, :bites nails: ---> will be going to AutoZone blanks
- Cobalt GTS (new compound)

:D

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 15th, 2010, 6:44 pm
by Willard
I updated my post (Civic front pads). 8)

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 15th, 2010, 10:19 pm
by Comp97GSR
Willard, without the heat shields did you melt the ft abs sensors?

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 16th, 2010, 2:29 am
by cheezthis
Comp97GSR wrote:Willard, without the heat shields did you melt the ft abs sensors?
I melted mine somewhat on the old GSR with the Legend/NSX setup, which required removing the heat shields.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 16th, 2010, 9:53 am
by stinkycheezmonky
You guys with the Legend rotors, no problem with fitment on the ITR caliper? I need new rotors and was considering those, but they're friggin' $67/rotor, compared to the Prelude VTEC ones I'd be using otherwise that are $23/rotor (!). I'm thinking 3 Prelude rotors will probably last longer than one Legend rotor, but I have no data to back that up.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 16th, 2010, 11:40 am
by cheezthis
When I ran the Legend rotors, I got multiple years out of them with both track and daily driving. You need the 28T Legend bracket for them to work, If you're on 4x100, you'll need to machine about 2.5mm off of the surface where it mounts. I gave my old set of machined brackets to a friend. I always liked those rotors, but yeah, they weren't cheap at all.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 16th, 2010, 10:57 pm
by Erik95LS
Comp97GSR wrote:Willard, without the heat shields did you melt the ft abs sensors?
Who still uses abs? :P

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 16th, 2010, 11:13 pm
by CivicBeater
Erik95LS wrote:
Comp97GSR wrote:Willard, without the heat shields did you melt the ft abs sensors?
Who still uses abs? :P
From what I've been told, you'd be an idiot to get rid of ABS as it works very well on our cars on the track. This is of course heresay.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 17th, 2010, 12:26 am
by cheezthis
The ITR ABS system is excellent. On the non-Rs, the system has mixed reviews compared to the ITR one. On my GSR, I kept the ABS system but had it disabled for a couple of track days and really liked it. I wouldn't remove it on an ITR though.

Re: Post your brake fluid,rotor,pad combo...

Posted: May 17th, 2010, 12:27 am
by coolhandluke
No hear say, it is a fantastic system on our cars. Just don't let yourself rely on it. :wink: