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ITR 97-143 IS BACK ON THE ROAD!!!!!
Posted: October 17th, 2002, 3:13 am
by ITR97-143
hey everyone
just bought one of the oldest ladies (97) that got left out and someone got to her in a bad way.
she got Stripped of her drivetrain and seats
but thay left most of her stuff like suspention wheels air bags door panles Cluster ( that Reads 14k)
sad day for such a clean car it was ..
i was woundering if anyone has any idea on trying to find out her number
shes got to be one of the 1 to 500..
Thanks
Posted: October 17th, 2002, 5:18 am
by B2FiNiTY
Sad sight to see. There is almost no way to find out what number you have. Just name her ITR#0000 if you want. You can buy those badges from Acura.
Posted: October 17th, 2002, 10:18 am
by Bbasso
Take a look at the motor number and use that, there is no way to actually retreive the number from the dealer or Honda (many have tried). Some ITRs in the early year say that their motor number is or is very close to the badge number.
So if you are able to get the motor number, try to ask around to see if anyone has that number- if nobody has it its yours...
Posted: October 19th, 2002, 12:56 pm
by pUrExTc
OMG...
Posted: October 20th, 2002, 11:47 pm
by 97-241
I am going to take a wild guess here and say that "stripped of the drive-train" means the engine is gone and he will not be able to look at the engine number(unless you have the original window sticker?)
I would say that you can safely narrow it down somewhere between 3 and 500(minus #241)...for you guys that saw the old registry, what was the highest US 97 number?
I have engine number B18C5-4300241 and my badge does indeed say 241.
So what do you plan on doing with the 97? Rebuild it or track it? Looks pretty light
Posted: October 21st, 2002, 2:41 am
by B2FiNiTY
engine number has nothing to do with the badge number.
Posted: October 21st, 2002, 5:59 pm
by 97-241
Then how do you explain all of the 97s having the same engine number and badge number? Well, are there any 97s out there that the original engine does not match their badge number?
How do engine numbers compare in 98? I would imagine that the engine number is ahead of the badge number by 500(or whatever the number of 97 ITRs in North America).
How many 99s were shipped to Canada?
I could be wrong, but it would still be interesting to see what people's engine numbers are for 98, 99, 00, and 01. I bet that they all add up...is the US and Canada the only countries to get a B18C5? Does Honda make extra/replacement engines and they break up the number sequence?
It would be cool to compare engine, badge numbers, and year if anybody wants to pitch in!
Posted: October 21st, 2002, 7:42 pm
by Trey
B2FiNiTY wrote:engine number has nothing to do with the badge number.
Read the post at honda tech. those that posted their engine # were within 3-4 #'s of their car #.
Posted: October 22nd, 2002, 1:04 am
by B2FiNiTY
Read the post again. There were a few but not all. So that basically means nothing.
Posted: October 22nd, 2002, 9:02 am
by Trey
I don't think it really tells you anything when they are "close to the number" anyway but they were (95% of them ) very close to their #. Best link ton date for an otherwise severe lack of info.
Posted: October 23rd, 2002, 2:11 am
by ITR97-143
thanks guys for trying to help... heres what i have found out about the car so Far.. witch isnt much..
it was never wrecked before the Theft..
heres a List.
DATE
REPORTED ODOMETER
READING INFORMATION
SOURCE GENERAL
COMMENTS
07/28/1997 10 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Rapids, MI
Title #263H2090543
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
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07/28/1997 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Rapids, MI
Registered as
private vehicle
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01/17/2002 26,000
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Oswego, IL
Title #T2017132026
Title issued
Ownership transfer reported
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09/23/2002 40,226
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Aurora, IL
Title #T2266766028
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
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Looks like the onwer that first bought the car knew his car was the shiznit.. and had it under lock and key...
for a that is now 5 yrs old .. its only on its 3rd owner..
IF theres any of you that lives in Michigan any chance of calling your local Dmv and Try to get the first owners info... the title number is on the List.
Posted: October 23rd, 2002, 2:27 am
by ITR97-143
TO 97-241 there is a way to Get the old engine number with out the block in hand ...
you are right they Stripped the drivetrain..
you have to get the local Police to get off there ass to print out a (shipping/Assembly Record) this record has all your car info from when it came in on the boat from japan such as :
make, yr, color (color if entered)
Vin number
shipping date to dealer
dealer it was sold to
Block number
tranny number
airbags numbers
cable reel number
srs Ecu number (obd2 srs sensor built in )
right and left SRS sensor number if obd1
...........................................................................................................
oh and yes im going to REbuild here when she Gets here from her long trip. shes coming from MN To Oregon ....
Posted: November 7th, 2002, 1:33 am
by ITR97-143
God do i feel Silly... the Anwser was infront of me the whole time .....
Posted: November 7th, 2002, 7:05 am
by B2FiNiTY
Perfect, glad you find out
Posted: November 7th, 2002, 12:24 pm
by Chris N
That was easy....
Posted: November 7th, 2002, 1:30 pm
by Bbasso
good to hear.
Posted: November 23rd, 2002, 7:51 pm
by ITR97-143
Posted: December 9th, 2002, 2:45 am
by B2FiNiTY
Looks way better. But for some reason...just doesn't seem the same anymore. No offense. Very good work.
Posted: December 9th, 2002, 2:48 am
by ITR97-143
yeah i know it will never be the same but for me it will do
if you took it too a shop to have it worked on with a new panel they would do the same thing.. just lil cleaner on the spot welds...
Jealousy
Posted: December 9th, 2002, 1:37 pm
by Dev
Ground up restoration........You are my idol
Posted: December 9th, 2002, 3:19 pm
by ITR97-143
hehehe thanks Dev.. its going to take time but it will be worth it to get her back on the road.
Posted: December 9th, 2002, 6:28 pm
by Bbasso
So are you going to seam weld that sucker?
Posted: December 10th, 2002, 8:02 am
by ITR97-143
yup just a lil cut and paste job.. of course im going to be useing a backing plate that will help with the welding and it will make it just as Strong if not stronger at the ends where im pasting it into so the panel will not break seams or buckle under stress.
when i get done with the seams i will make sure i take picks of it all
and after i get done painting it you will never know that this R had a skin replacement..