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your opinion?

Posted: June 9th, 2003, 5:58 pm
by mayhem
Whats the best synthetic oil to use ..i got a stock 2000 acura type r

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Posted: June 9th, 2003, 6:05 pm
by mayhem
sorry i didnt see the the post below....what do u guys think i should be running 5/30 or 10/30,,its only got 30k mi.

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Posted: June 9th, 2003, 6:38 pm
by gosox2003
5w30 mobil 1 synthetic....once synthetic goes in the engine that is all that should be put in for the rest of the cars 'life'

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 3:18 pm
by YellowDragon279
I like Castrol Syntec, just cause someone decided to play a practicle joke on my by draining my oil pan and knowing that I had just changed the oil a few months before and coming no where close to 3000 miles. I never thought to check the oil until driving with out any oil in the pan for atleast a week maybe more. I was driving it pretty hard too. (Not my R it was my Civic) any way it wasn't until the car cut off on me one day that I thought to check the ignition and oil etc etc. the Car has about 140kmiles on it so I was surprised as it had never given me a problem.
Anyway, the oil pan was bone dry and smoking. I checked the engine to see if there were any leaks etc etc and there ws nothing. I put 2 quarts of LUCAS Engine treatment and 2 quarts of Castrol Syntec and the problem was fixed. Not one problem from that 140k mile engine.

Funny thing I was told by a well known conspiracy theorist that ALL Synthetic oils were the same. Meaning developed from the same Lab etc etc. LOL I don't think you can go wrong with either to tell you the truth.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 8:44 pm
by jetydosa
Ouch, what kind of practical joke is that?!

Anyway, for all you ever wanted to know about motor oil, I highly recommend you check out The Oil Drop forums at
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

Do some searching, check out the oil analysis section.
Cliff notes would be that most people there feel that Redline, Amsoil and Shaeffers are the best oils out there. Castrol Syntec is one of the most despised!

Posted: June 10th, 2003, 8:51 pm
by Dave-ROR
I just run non-synth, if I did run synth, it'd probably be shaeffers.

I'll post my analysis once I get it back. 4500-5000 mile changes on non-synth castrol gtx.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 9:04 pm
by George Knighton
mayhem wrote:Whats the best synthetic oil to use ..i got a stock 2000 acura type r
My personal opinion: All synthetic is a waste of money.

My personal opinion: If there's no way to talk you out of synthetic, then do not use Mobile One. It burns in ITR.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:18 pm
by Jan Niemi
I have used Syntec on all of my turbo cars for years, no problems. There is a difference between synthetic and mineral oil. The key is thermal management, keeping the oil from exceeding it's limits of survival in extreme temperatures. Mineral oils like temps below 230F. Synthetics survive in temps up to 270F. For an NA car, it may not be as essential, but in turbo cars, it's very beneficial. Synthetics don't acidify like mineral based, and is less likely to coke on turbo bearings.

Do what you want, believe who you want, do the research and you will have the answer.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:19 pm
by George Knighton
What synthetic do you use yourself, if you don't mind?

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:26 pm
by Jan Niemi
read the 4th word in my post above.

Sorry I can be sarcastic sometimes. :roll:

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:27 pm
by George Knighton
Jan Niemi wrote:read the 4th word in my post above.

Sorry I can be sarcastic sometimes. :roll:
I am so sorry. I did not know that was a trade name.

After Ichisima told us it was a waste of money, I never listened to anything about it again.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:30 pm
by Jan Niemi
"Syntec" is a Castrol brand name synthetic oil. I'm sorry, I thought everyone knew that, my mistake.

Who is ichisma?

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:35 pm
by H.I.D's
Well.. i'd have to disagree, we use mobil in a couple of race cars. For it to burn in the ITR and nothing else, i'd find hard to believe. We would have noticed engine tempertures rising, or even on the engine management systems we have on the cars. Synthetic is a much more cleaner oil than regular crude/motor oil. The oil that im really impressed with is the Motul. We tear re-build motors all the time, and haven't yet found large portions of carbon build-up on the combustion chambers or exhaust manifolds.
-Jon

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:44 pm
by George Knighton
Jan Niemi wrote:Who is ichisma?
Tatsuru Ichishima is the founder of Spoon Sports. A great friend to ITR owners ever since the car hit the streets.

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:46 pm
by George Knighton
BlackForestMotorsports wrote:Well.. i'd have to disagree, we use mobil in a couple of race cars. For it to burn in the ITR and nothing else, i'd find hard to believe.
What, are you arguing with me?

LOL...

Mobil One is notorious in track ITR for burning and rapid consumption.

Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:59 pm
by Dave-ROR
Mobil 1 is known to burn in honda DOHC VTEC motors. It doesn't burn in all of them, but it does in a lot of them..

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Posted: June 10th, 2003, 10:59 pm
by RedKroovy
Well damn from what I've always read everyone always said use Mobil One. Also i know this was said earlier in the post but can you go back to natural after using synthetic or is that debateable. Also other then redline(and similiar others ) whats good b/c I will never use Castrol again.

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Posted: June 11th, 2003, 1:28 am
by YellowDragon279
George Knighton wrote:
BlackForestMotorsports wrote:Well.. i'd have to disagree, we use mobil in a couple of race cars. For it to burn in the ITR and nothing else, i'd find hard to believe.
What, are you arguing with me?

LOL...

Mobil One is notorious in track ITR for burning and rapid consumption.
I didn't know that until reading a recent thread about Oils... Lots of the people who posted said that They Use Mobil One Synthetic and that it burns alot.
I was surprised to hear that

Posted: June 11th, 2003, 7:38 am
by Trey
I use Amsoil. Did my research and liked it the best. Cost is about the same as Mobil 1 (Which does burn in DOHC Honda motors). Pain to get it since you have to order it or find a dealer.

Trey

Posted: June 11th, 2003, 8:48 am
by Dave-ROR
Trey wrote:I use Amsoil. Did my research and liked it the best. Cost is about the same as Mobil 1 (Which does burn in DOHC Honda motors). Pain to get it since you have to order it or find a dealer.

Trey
A friend's a dealer of Amsoil.

I wanna start dealing schaeffers so I can get dat chitf ro cheap :P

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Posted: June 12th, 2003, 1:13 am
by H.I.D's
Heh.. It's funny how we run formula cars with DOHC motors in them, and not once found a burning oil problem. Maybe your car is screwed up or something. We have no complaints for using it. I know a lot of people running Mobil 1 in high-reving, high-horsepower cars, many of those b-series motors, yet no ones complaining. So again.. I'd still have to disagree. Not trying to make a huge argument but maybe it's different in other people's motors.

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Posted: June 12th, 2003, 3:49 am
by Beasty18C5
Sorry but I'm one of those that used Mobil and also found out that it burns oil in my R also was told by a Honda dealer that the guys that use mobil on their cars with DOHC VTEC had the same problem so I don't think it's an engine problem

Posted: June 12th, 2003, 8:47 am
by Trey
I had mobil1 burn in a GSR and in a 2000 Type-R. Both enough to have to add oil. Quit using it and the problem went away in the 2000 R. Coincidence? Others have reported this same phenominon.

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Posted: June 12th, 2003, 1:26 pm
by Dave-ROR
BlackForestMotorsports wrote:Heh.. It's funny how we run formula cars with DOHC motors in them, and not once found a burning oil problem. Maybe your car is screwed up or something. We have no complaints for using it. I know a lot of people running Mobil 1 in high-reving, high-horsepower cars, many of those b-series motors, yet no ones complaining. So again.. I'd still have to disagree. Not trying to make a huge argument but maybe it's different in other people's motors.
What does this have to do with stockish B-series motors?

Ok, Let's see if I can be more clear this time.

Some B-Series motors burn Mobil 1, then when the owner switches to another oil, the burning stops. Some owners don't have this problem at all. On the same day, at the same track, a friends ITR will burn 2-3 quarts of Mobil 1. I burn 0 of Castrol GTX. But those are different motors but still shows the Mobil 1 can burn in B-Series motors. Also, D burns far more oil when using Mobil 1 vs Castrol GTX.

Need more clarification or is that good enough for now?

Edit, BTW, The Racer Groups porsche's don't use B-Series motors last I checked, nor do I recall seeing BFM rigs/cars at any races around here, but I could have missed you. See you at the track sometime.

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Posted: June 12th, 2003, 1:55 pm
by H.I.D's
I think your thinking of a different BFM theres about 20 different ones, and don't fall under what your talking about, but since you have to clarify everything to the fullest, will end the conversation now.