shifting w/o the clutch

Jordn7 · Post by **Jordn7** » July 7th, 2003, 1:31 am

I know it is possible to shift without using the clutch if you do it at exactly the right time. what I don't know is, is it feasible for dragracing or racing in general, is it slower or faster than shifting with the clutch?

bbqman · Post by **bbqman** » July 7th, 2003, 5:31 pm

Power-shifting or speed shifting is quite useless for roadracing and is very damaging to the transmission. The possible gain is great out weighed by damage that can or will occur to the tranny.......not a recommended driving practice.

sscguy · Post by **sscguy** » July 9th, 2003, 12:13 pm

Just to give some examples:

1. Guy who drag-races a waaaay hopped-up Eclipse, running about 350whp I think. He power-shifts at the strip, but the tranny only lasts for like 3 or 4 races like that. He's aware of this though, and is willing to make that compromise for the extra 0.01 second or whatever.

2. Guy on an Lancer forum thought that a transmission (any sports car transmission apparently) should be able to tolerate power-shifting. Now he's having loads of tranny problems. Go figure.

fyhr · Post by **fyhr** » November 29th, 2003, 6:33 pm

or get yourself a dogbox with straight cut cogs and make sure you match the revs correctly... theres an evo6 in sweden where i live that runs such a gearbox, has lasted a year of racing so far, without any problems at all says the owner.

btw it's the fastest evo6 in the world, http://www.jrm-racing.se/

1Greyteg · Post by **1Greyteg** » March 23rd, 2004, 6:53 pm

fyhr wrote:or get yourself a dogbox with straight cut cogs and make sure you match the revs correctly... theres an evo6 in sweden where i live that runs such a gearbox, has lasted a year of racing so far, without any problems at all says the owner.

btw it's the fastest evo6 in the world, http://www.jrm-racing.se/

Yeah but for most of us it's just not worth it besides not being legal for club and series classing.

Wai · Post by **Wai** » March 24th, 2004, 3:14 pm

fyhr wrote:btw it's the fastest evo6 in the world, http://www.jrm-racing.se/

Fastest as in what? I know that JUN Evo5 (superlemon) is hella fast. So is HKS Evo7. Both of which have been breaking track records in Asia.

BudMan · Post by **BudMan** » August 24th, 2005, 8:18 am

Jordn7 wrote:I know it is possible to shift without using the clutch if you do it at exactly the right time. what I don't know is, is it feasible for dragracing or racing in general, is it slower or faster than shifting with the clutch?

Try to learn this process on a crappy daily driven car. My old Honda accord was the tester...

I think it's worthy to learn as a 'back-up' only option. I wouldn't intend on racing that way unless I'm dealing with a bs clutch on championship day (which means I didn't prepare the car very well). Today's performance clutches are beautiful things. They handle the power & the volume of shifting that a club racing car will do.

BTW - until you are VERY good at the no-clutch shifting, you won't be faster anyway. 1 missed shift & you've lost all time you gained by doing it correctly several times.

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