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1/4 mile times

Posted: July 29th, 2003, 11:30 pm
by alpha q
I have been reading all these 1/4 mile times and different mods, and you guys are great.

I own a 98 JDM Type R engine in my 95 Honda Civic DX coupe. My mods are AEM CAI, fuel pressure regulator (55 psi), cam gears, modified cat, cat-back exhaust system, NGK spark plugs, and MSD ignition wires. Other than those mods stock!!!

My 1/2 time is at 14.4. Do you think this is accurate? Cuz damn it looks like you guys are doing much better. What do you think it is?

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: July 30th, 2003, 4:05 pm
by swtxaznrac3r
pratice some more and you'll bring it down

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 1st, 2003, 3:19 am
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
swtxaznrac3r wrote:pratice some more and you'll bring it down
You can get down to 13.8's or somewhere in the high 13's with practice...

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 1st, 2003, 5:13 pm
by Chris N
Yes, 13.8's sound good.

My friend Dave has a VX with a b18c-r, 3" AEM CAI, toda header, and 2.5" exhaust and he can now consistently run 13.8's @ about 101-102mph. The car FLIES. Oh, no interior behind the front seats, but even that didn't save much weight. In fact, the first time the car was at the strip, 14.01 was the best time with full interior. A few more times out to get the 60ft times down and launching better, and that car will be in the mid/low 13's.

Practice is good at the drag strip.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 2nd, 2003, 1:06 pm
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
Went to the track last night.... it was my first time at the track this year and with the B18C-R in my 99 Civic Coupe. I was planning on running slicks last night but was told I couldn't when I got there so I ended up running stock Michelin Si tires... I can tell there's still room for improvement, the car has faster times in it... Anyhow My overall fastest time of the night was my 12th run....

Stock B18C-R w/JDM 4-1
AEM 3" CAI - Apexi WS Exhaust
Stock Michelins at 28psi
3800 RPM launch
7:54 PM


R/T: .506
60': 2.292
330: 6.209
1/8: 9.413
MPH: 77.59
1000: 12.180
1/4: 14.518
MPH: 96.84


Overall I was pretty pleased with my runs, definately need better traction... I think I can shave off around .2-3 (14.2-3) with Falken Azenis and possibly .3-5+ (14.0-13.999) with the slicks... My R/T's were great tonight and I was pretty pleased with my MPH times... just need to work the 60's a little better... I think I was pretty consistant though cause out of 14 total runs, 9 of those were .5xx R/T's, and I ran pretty much 14.5xx every time I raced except for the first two runs at 14.748 and 14.636. Next week I'm gonna try dropping a little higher like 5000 maybe 5500 cause I had a lot of wheel hoppin on the stockers.... I'll get it eventually...my goal is 13.999 somehow on the setup I have now on slicks or street tires (Falken Azenis).

Any opionon's on my times? Are these about slow or average times or should I be a little faster? I'll have to post a video up of my run(s) later on... I would think that I can go faster, cause two of my buddies run consistant 14.6xx in their b16 hatches and I show them prolly 2-3 cars on the street... Raced my brother in his 94 coupe with a JDM LSD B16 and he managed a 14.8 @ 94 (Awesome run/time for him) so I'd know I can bet better times, my car pulls on theres going down the road farely easily. I dunno, I'm happy with my times consitering the conditions, still need to practice a little more... 14.5 I didn't think was that bad for my very first time with this motor, maybe I am wrong... dunno

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 3rd, 2003, 9:13 pm
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
no opinions yet? Where is everyone at?

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 3rd, 2003, 9:31 pm
by Jan Niemi
Great times, I'm surprised you pulled a 2.2 60 foots on those tires with such high tire pressure. Lower the tire pressure to under 20 psi, I would play with 16 to 20 psi, and try to find the sweet spot. With slicks or drag radials you should be able to shave a few tenths. My best 60 on drag radials at 14-16 psi so far is high 1.9s. Other than that, as long as your clutch is holding, the times look straight. Now she needs more power!! :twisted:

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 4th, 2003, 12:17 am
by alpha q
So with my set-up I should be at least in the 13's? Oh, well I guess I better practice more, but my motor seems like thats all it has to give with those mods and that's bull!

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 12:59 am
by Jan Niemi
No I didn't say you should be in the 13s, I said you pulled great times, a few tenths would put you at 14.2 or so. If you hit 13s with only those mods, good work mate, because that would be awesome driving.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 7:52 am
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
I'm gonna get 13.999 on August 15th when I go to the track again... you wait and see (hopefully) :)

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 12:11 pm
by Jan Niemi
Sorry, I forgot you are driving a Civic, I think your ride is lighter than the R, so you are right, it may be possible, I hope it is.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 12:19 pm
by itr2k587
jan: what kind of times do you think youd run on full slicks?

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 12:30 pm
by Jan Niemi
maybe a couple of tenths better. I will do stronger axles before I go slicks. I think I can do better on drag radials still once I'm tuned. Once I can't improve anymore, then it will be slick time.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 2:26 pm
by itr2k587
the reason i ask is i know a guy with almost the same setup running 12.2, 12.3 on slicks ~ stock ecu. he is also lacking the 3" exhaust. do you think the exhaust and the right computer management will put him in the 11.99999 range?

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 3:24 pm
by ITR41
about the time launch harder. on falken ze-502's all motor I was pullin 2.1 60fts with full interior including spare and jack. my times all motor are in my sig. I was launching at 7500-7800rpms on all my runs. just ride the clutch till you start moving and then dump it.

Posted: August 5th, 2003, 3:25 pm
by ITR41
ps- jan should go into 11's on slicks with his set up now. 114mph is a mid 11 second trap on slicks so he should do that. I am buying a E-cut out soon so we will see if I can trap 114-117 on my new set up soon

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 6th, 2003, 8:57 am
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
Jan Niemi wrote:Lower the tire pressure to under 20 psi, I would play with 16 to 20 psi, and try to find the sweet spot. With slicks or drag radials you should be able to shave a few tenths. My best 60 on drag radials at 14-16 psi so far is high 1.9s. Other than that, as long as your clutch is holding, the times look straight. Now she needs more power!! :twisted:
I think 14-16psi on stock tires would be too flat, yes you'd prolly get better 60' times though you'd be slowing down at the end of the track caues the tires would be too flat...

I'm happy with the performance I'm getting outta this motor, afterall the ITR motor isn't really designed for dragging...but its working pretty good I think. I've done a lot of racing in the last few years so I know I can pull my times on stockers down a few tenths, August 15th I'll play around with the launch and tire settings some more. 14.5 seems really slow though coming from a fully built b20vtec race prepped motor turbocharged capable of pumping out 550-600 whp... I'm still getting use to going from 16psi daily driven (400+whp/300+tq) to a non-boosted 180ish/130tq baby yelling like a mofo as it screams me down the track......lol.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 6th, 2003, 12:28 pm
by Jan Niemi
e r i c s 9 9 s i wrote:
Jan Niemi wrote:Lower the tire pressure to under 20 psi, I would play with 16 to 20 psi, and try to find the sweet spot. With slicks or drag radials you should be able to shave a few tenths. My best 60 on drag radials at 14-16 psi so far is high 1.9s. Other than that, as long as your clutch is holding, the times look straight. Now she needs more power!! :twisted:
I think 14-16psi on stock tires would be too flat, yes you'd prolly get better 60' times though you'd be slowing down at the end of the track caues the tires would be too flat...

I'm happy with the performance I'm getting outta this motor, afterall the ITR motor isn't really designed for dragging...but its working pretty good I think. I've done a lot of racing in the last few years so I know I can pull my times on stockers down a few tenths, August 15th I'll play around with the launch and tire settings some more. 14.5 seems really slow though coming from a fully built b20vtec race prepped motor turbocharged capable of pumping out 550-600 whp... I'm still getting use to going from 16psi daily driven (400+whp/300+tq) to a non-boosted 180ish/130tq baby yelling like a mofo as it screams me down the track......lol.
Yea, that's why I said run 16 to 20 on those tires. I have had success with 14-16 on Drag radials.

Posted: August 7th, 2003, 11:39 am
by Trey
I'd a 13 isn't out of the Question. I ran a 13.83 with my R with full interior no spare and an AEM and JDM 4-1 on stock exhaust.

Trey

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 8:51 am
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
Trey wrote:I'd a 13 isn't out of the Question. I ran a 13.83 with my R with full interior no spare and an AEM and JDM 4-1 on stock exhaust.

Trey
I'm trying big guy... this friday I'll hopefully find out.. Were you using stock R tires as well? Drag Radials, or slicks? I know I can get into the 13's eventually, cause my traps are high enough...just need to practice with this setup.

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 9:48 am
by Trey
I was on Azenis at 20 psi. Pulled 2.1 60's

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 2:26 pm
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
I should hopefully be able to get 2.0 sixty foots with Azenis tires, I'm right now doing high 2.1/low 2.2 sixties right now with factory SI Michelins... Thanks for the advice on the Azenis tire pressure :D

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 5:33 pm
by Jan Niemi
What car had Michelins from the factory? Rs came with Bridgestone Potenza RE010s.

Re: 1/4 mile times

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 10:15 pm
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
Jan Niemi wrote:What car had Michelins from the factory? Rs came with Bridgestone Potenza RE010s.
Factory Michelin XGT V4 195/55R15 came on the 99-00 Honda Civic Si Coupes. Maybe you mis-read my signature but I have a R motor in my 99 Si coupe, I don't have a actual Integra R (someday prolly), just the motor.

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 11:09 pm
by Jan Niemi
e r i c s 9 9 s i wrote:
Trey wrote:I'd a 13 isn't out of the Question. I ran a 13.83 with my R with full interior no spare and an AEM and JDM 4-1 on stock exhaust.

Trey
I'm trying big guy... this friday I'll hopefully find out.. Were you using stock R tires as well? Drag Radials, or slicks? I know I can get into the 13's eventually, cause my traps are high enough...just need to practice with this setup.
Sorry, the above mislead me, "Were you using stock R tires as well?"