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hondata question
Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 11:06 pm
by 01BLKR09
does anyone on here run a hondata? i am thinking about getting one. any opinons it. if so what gains did you notice and what stage is it. if anyone can help, thanks.
Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 11:51 pm
by shivers
http://www.hondata.com ... they are no longer sold as "stages." With a good i/h/e you'll see some gains. High 180s to low 190s at wheels can be expected with good tuning.
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 10:08 am
by Erik B
I went from 254whp to 306whp
All I did was get bigger injectors, intank fuel pump (got rid of inline fuel pump and vortch FMU) I was able to turn my boost up from 5psi to a safe 10psi with the s200b Hondata. I would recommend Hondata to anyone and everyone. Before you go jumping into a hondata I would read that link Tony posted for you. This is not something to just put on and go with it. It'll take some time on a dyno and good tuning to really get the max effects of it.
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 10:15 am
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
Tony pretty much summed it all up... visit hondata's website, it'll prolly answer all the questions you have... I personally have a Stage 3 with the additional stuff to make it a stage4 hondata controlling my car... I baught my hondata a few years back though so thats the only reason I have a "stage" type unit... Hondata S200 would work perfect for anyones car...
As far as making extra power with Hondata, I'd say it's true in. My car was dyno'd this last winter running a pretty much standard base ITR map (a friend that tunes hondata burnt the base map and added a little fuel in area's he thought were common problem areas to make it a little more aggresive), AEM CAI and a Apexi World Sport exhaust. I made two base pulls on the dyno not tuning or changing a thing and the motor put down 184whp/124tq which is outstanding for a stock motor w/ Intake and Exhaust plus the hondata... Dunno what the average R dyno's at but I would thing between 170-180whp so the hondata must have helped out a little bit I would think.. Most importantly, with hondata you car runs like it should from the factory without the annoying CEL's...
Definately two thumbs up for Hondata
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 10:19 am
by Erik B
I think 170 is a little high. I'd say between 160-170. Eric, thema re some really really good number specially from someone else's maps...
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 10:38 am
by shivers
Erik B wrote:Before you go jumping into a hondata I would read that link Trey posted for you.
I'm not Trey, y0.
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 11:28 am
by Erik B
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 1:49 pm
by Trey
I fixed it when I saw that :p
I agree with everyone here. Good Mod, not plug and race/drive.
I also agree with Erik that a stock ITR is in the 160's. A 2000/2001 is upper 160's.
My 98 with a 2000 ITR intake cam with Icebox/Toda/Stock Muffle is making 184/127 using a Hondata.
That said something no one else mentioend is it isn;'t about peak numbers. Concentrate on the usuable powe bewteen 4000 and 7000 a LOT too.
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 2:16 pm
by Bbasso
Just to give you an idea what a stock ITR with a AEM CAI will put out, I have 164 & 116 whp
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 5:57 pm
by 01BLKR09
thanks for all your help, i am putting in my buddys skunk 2 progam tonight to see what it will do with that. i just would like to break 13's soon. my setup now is aem/dc/mugen ihe, field v-tec,skunk stage ones,exedy clutch, and standard 12 pound flywheel. it was running a 14.123 at 98.70 with a 2.200 60ft. that was before the cams, clutch, and flywheel though. so i think i should be able to pull at least a high thirteen with the setup i have now we will see. anyway thanks for all the help
Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 11:17 pm
by e r i c s 9 9 s i
[quote="Erik B"] Eric, them are some really really good number specially from someone else's maps...
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props to buddy Crescent (c-speedracing.com) for his brilliant head.. I was truely amazed as well.. Crescent truely is a genious when it comes to tuning... after my two base pulls and him looking at my graphs, the first thing out his mouth was.. "stay up there, lets tune this thing... we can get 200whp outta this thing no prob.." I was like... yeah right... then he was like... "195 guarrenteed, I can fart 10whp outta a motor..lol"
Anyhow.. for those that haven't ever heard of Crescent aka "C-SPEED" here are a few links for you guys to enjoy..
C-speed Project Integra re-joins the 12 second club! (Video's Inside)
C-SPEED's Project Integra
Overall... Crescent's car really has given me the inspiration and overall motovation to get my car into the 12's here locally.. He did it on a 2.0L, I'm trying for the same times on a 1.8L. Time will tell..
Posted: January 25th, 2004, 12:49 am
by Bbasso
01BLKR09 wrote:thanks for all your help, i am putting in my buddys skunk 2 progam tonight to see what it will do with that. i just would like to break 13's soon. my setup now is aem/dc/mugen ihe, field v-tec,skunk stage ones,exedy clutch, and standard 12 pound flywheel. it was running a 14.123 at 98.70 with a 2.200 60ft. that was before the cams, clutch, and flywheel though. so i think i should be able to pull at least a high thirteen with the setup i have now we will see. anyway thanks for all the help
Can you explain what Flywheel are you using? I though the stock R FW is 15 and change...
Posted: January 25th, 2004, 8:31 pm
by Trey
bbasso wrote: I though the stock R FW is 15 and change...
You are correct, it is 15.x and the GSR is 17.x stock
Posted: January 26th, 2004, 8:10 am
by 01BLKR09
i know that it is only 15 pounds. but actually when we weighed it was 16.5. but even though 4 pounds isnt that much lighter i still like it. it was a gift.
Posted: March 7th, 2004, 4:07 pm
by moruh
i got 178hp with stock itr 99 spec japans..with vafc 2.. but they said (local n1 racing) mines very low compare to others.. should be around 19x.