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vtec vs turbo

Posted: January 25th, 2003, 3:00 am
by s2000
I have a question to all type r owners. I have owned a 91 turbo mr2 and loved every bit of it. The only reason I sold it is because of the high mileage. I've heard many great things about the R and is interested in getting one.
Can you guys tell me how is the vtec in the R compare to the turbo.
Thank for your input in advance.

Posted: January 25th, 2003, 11:51 am
by Dr Who
lol, it wont be like a turbo when it hits, thats for sure. you will hear it and feel it when it engages, but its not a huge blast of power

VTEC VS TURBO

Posted: January 27th, 2003, 1:22 pm
by Jan Niemi
Dude, that's a tough comparison, a rear drive mid engine turbo car versus a front drive all motor car. I would have kept the MR2 but it's too late. Try this on for size, a vtec with a turbo.

Seriously, I'm a Honda fan since I was 16 and old enough to drive, but Toyota makes a nice product too (my wife's 93 Camry has 152000 miles on it and drives like new)

You will definitely miss the way that boost comes on rapidly and the resultant surge of power, but most factory turbo cars fall on their face at high RPM. Not the ITR, this car was born to rev, and just as the turbo was fun at low rpm, the ITR lives to rev above 5500 rpm. You will get addicted to VTEC just as you were addicted to boost.

There is nothing like blasting by someone at 8000 rpm, with their windows rolled down, it's like getting pimp slapped by VTEC.

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 3:01 am
by s2000
Hey guys thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, I know I'm compareing two different setup...fwd vs rwd, but
I hear so much great things about the itr and how amazing it is to be in
vtec land. Plus, I'm not trying to compare how fast the two cars are I just
want to know how vetc is compared to a stock turbo when it pulls
Can anyone tell me how different is the feel from a stock turbo?
It is agreed that vtec doesn't pull like a turbo, but how strong is the pull?
Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!

vtec pull

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 7:56 am
by Jan Niemi
In my opinion, the at the vtec switch over there is a slight feeling of increased power, but it comes on gradually in a more linear fashion. It does'nt put you in your seat like a turbo. Don't forget, the ITR only makes around mid 130ft lbs of peak torque. But then again I can't remember the last time my ass was calibrated.

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 8:19 pm
by Kangbateh
When you mash that pedal to the ground and V-tec kicks in at 4300RPM (for me modified E.C.U. to Mugen) man that surge of power is a great feeling. Hold on to that steering wheel tight because you could lose control :twisted:

does'nt

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 7:55 am
by Jan Niemi
I am embarrased about my grammatical error. (does'nt) should be (doesn't) It will never happen again.

embarrassed

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 8:00 am
by Jan Niemi
embarrassed, I need spell check.

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 12:58 pm
by Kangbateh
I agree with Jan Niemi. Took the words right ot of me mouth! :twisted:




I'm at a loss of words .... oh V-tec I miss you so :cry:

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 12:30 am
by s2000
I misstype often, so don't feel bad :D
Kangbateh.
Besides the mugen ECU, what else do you have?
sounds like it is a big improvement to have vtec kick in earlier.
How far are you from a stock S2k(0 to 60)?

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 12:44 am
by kabob
VTEC's not a big deal. I suppose if you had to compare it to a turbo, it's similar to being boosted by 2-3 lbs. with lots of turbo lag :p (5700 rpms worth) ITR's speed lies not in the engine so much as a stiff chassis, shorter than short gear ratios, limited-slip differential, good aerodynamics and tenacious grip assuming you don't use POS tires :D

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 5:24 am
by Kangbateh
Senor, s2000. I have of course the Mugen E.C.U. Spoon plug wires, spoon flywheel, Aem CAI, AEM adjustable fuel regulator, Buddy club Racing spec 3 exhaust, Mugen low temp thermostat, Mugen radiator cap, Jun cam gears and that's it for now.as far as the S2k 0
- to 60 I don't know yet, but the Vtec kicks in quick as hell :twisted:

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 7:38 pm
by s2000
Kabob.
Sweet comparison! Since I've owned a turboed car before I can relate
to boost and turbo lag.

Kangbateh.
Nice mods! How much have you spent on the mods already?

Have any of you seen a TL headlight conversion on an integra.
Looks way better than the jdm hdlights...IMO.
I've heard only good things about the itr. So what is the favorite part
of driving your itr?

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 7:44 pm
by kabob
The TL headlight conversion is called the "Cali Type R" front end and it is the nastiest thing I've ever seen on an Integra short of this one dude that fabricated 98+ Camaro headlights on his front end :roll:

Posted: February 1st, 2003, 2:33 pm
by Kangbateh
About $4,000 dollars. my favorite thing about driving my ITR is when I drop it in first gear and those revs shoot up past 4300 RPM and the Vtec kicks in which makes the beast sound even nastier and I take it all the way down to it's rev limit. To me the best part is when that VTEC kicks in it's like a hot girl during good sex having an orgasam. she's already feeing it and it's already good, but then she gets that orgasam which makes her go even crazier. That may sound nut's, but that's what the engine sound like to me it just starts pulling hard and well... you know. :twisted: