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Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 2:22 pm
by CivicBeater
I'm curious to see how you have it set-up. This is something I strongly considered on my last si, however sold it before I had the chance too. I think it would help tremendously as far as keeping brakes cool go. I've spoken with guys who've done this on other models of cars and strongly recommended it.
I'm not sure if this can be done on our cars while keeping a clean look on the front end where the inlets to the duct work would be (hopefully located somehow inconspicuously).
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 3:25 pm
by Willard
Are there any issues with your brakes currently?
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 3:47 pm
by Dave-ROR
Ducts never hurt. We'll be putting them on the Chump GSR soon, but they'll be ghetto engineered...
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 3:58 pm
by jfults2000
Heel_togue has them on his caR i'm not sure if he has any pictures of the setup or not.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 4:02 pm
by CivicBeater
jfults2000 wrote:Heel_togue has them on his caR i'm not sure if he has any pictures of the setup or not.
Interesting, if you speak to him let him know to get on here!
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 4:43 pm
by beastnatch
Here's a nice one that I always like to have people look at due to a nice writeup. It's in German, and using the EDM foglight holes...
http://dc2.ch/DC2cms/index.php?option=c ... &Itemid=77
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 7:10 pm
by coolhandluke
I'm with Will. Too much work.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 7:12 pm
by Erik95LS
coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:40 pm
by CivicBeater
Erik95LS wrote:coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
At CMP (very technical track) I was boiling ATE Superblue about every session. Yes, most of it was due to my lack of proper braking but I'm sure ducts would have definitely helped keep them a bit cooler.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:44 pm
by Erik95LS
CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
At CMP (very technical track) I was boiling ATE Superblue about every session. Yes, most of it was due to my lack of proper braking but I'm sure ducts would have definitely helped keep them a bit cooler.
but that was no in an ITR which has brakes meant for a 3100lb car on it at only 2500lbs. Even in high heat at CMP I've never boiled superblue. I'd say if you find you're still boiling in the R then you're simply on the brakes too long.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:47 pm
by CivicBeater
Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
At CMP (very technical track) I was boiling ATE Superblue about every session. Yes, most of it was due to my lack of proper braking but I'm sure ducts would have definitely helped keep them a bit cooler.
but that was no in an ITR which has brakes meant for a 3100lb car on it at only 2500lbs. Even in high heat at CMP I've never boiled superblue. I'd say if you find you're still boiling in the R then you're simply on the brakes too long.
I was definitely dragging brakes too much.
This isn't something that I am dead set on or something I plan to do prior to a couple events in the R, however would consider it. For the sake of getting some action on the board and information that I'm curious about I figured it was worthy of a thread..
p.s. my apologies on explaining CMP as being technical, I just assumed you were from a far away place and wouldn't know what I was saying if I just said "CMP"
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:54 pm
by Erik95LS
CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
At CMP (very technical track) I was boiling ATE Superblue about every session. Yes, most of it was due to my lack of proper braking but I'm sure ducts would have definitely helped keep them a bit cooler.
but that was no in an ITR which has brakes meant for a 3100lb car on it at only 2500lbs. Even in high heat at CMP I've never boiled superblue. I'd say if you find you're still boiling in the R then you're simply on the brakes too long.
I was definitely dragging brakes too much.
This isn't something that I am dead set on or something I plan to do prior to a couple events in the R, however would consider it. For the sake of getting some action on the board and information that I'm curious about I figured it was worthy of a thread..
yeah, I wasn't trying to talk you out of it, just saying it's not really necessary on these cars until you get to pretty heavy racing situations and even then......
I've seen people have inlets in a second set of turn signals which would be easy to swap in at the track. Some have them in front of the radiator, but I'd rather not interrupt that flow at all. Plenty of options.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:56 pm
by coolhandluke
Erik is one of the quicker guys in this forum at CMP.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:57 pm
by CivicBeater
Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:coolhandluke wrote:I'm with Will. Too much work.
Really no need on these cars unless you're reaching SERIOUS speeds on the straights in a very hot climate. Even then I rather doubt you'd see any advantage.
At CMP (very technical track) I was boiling ATE Superblue about every session. Yes, most of it was due to my lack of proper braking but I'm sure ducts would have definitely helped keep them a bit cooler.
but that was no in an ITR which has brakes meant for a 3100lb car on it at only 2500lbs. Even in high heat at CMP I've never boiled superblue. I'd say if you find you're still boiling in the R then you're simply on the brakes too long.
I was definitely dragging brakes too much.
This isn't something that I am dead set on or something I plan to do prior to a couple events in the R, however would consider it. For the sake of getting some action on the board and information that I'm curious about I figured it was worthy of a thread..
yeah, I wasn't trying to talk you out of it, just saying it's not really necessary on these cars until you get to pretty heavy racing situations and even then......
I've seen people have inlets in a second set of turn signals which would be easy to swap in at the track. Some have them in front of the radiator, but I'd rather not interrupt that flow at all. Plenty of options.
I'm sure it's safe to say you're right. As my skills increase I'm sure my brakes will stay cooler.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 9:01 pm
by Erik95LS
CivicBeater wrote:
p.s. my apologies on explaining CMP as being technical, I just assumed you were from a far away place and wouldn't know what I was saying if I just said "CMP"
no worries dude.
Can't wait to see 442 out on track again. She and I have spent a great deal of time at speed together.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 9:08 pm
by Erik95LS
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 9:53 pm
by CivicBeater
Incredible!
Tell me you got a semi boner puttin' the moves on the porsche? ha! What kind of power are you putting down?
It will probably take me a bit to do any justice to the 442, but I can at least tell you that you'll see it out there
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 9:55 pm
by Erik95LS
CivicBeater wrote:Incredible!
Tell me you got a semi boner puttin' the moves on the porsche? ha! What kind of power are you putting down?
It will probably take me a bit to do any justice to the 442, but I can at least tell you that you'll see it out there
haha nah, it's a regular occurrence for Hondas. Stock b18c5 with intake, header, and exhaust.
442 is a great car and ready to go. Just get out there and enjoy it!
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: April 28th, 2010, 9:57 pm
by CivicBeater
Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Incredible!
Tell me you got a semi boner puttin' the moves on the porsche? ha! What kind of power are you putting down?
It will probably take me a bit to do any justice to the 442, but I can at least tell you that you'll see it out there
haha nah, it's a regular occurrence for Hondas. Stock b18c5 with intake, header, and exhaust.
442 is a great car and ready to go. Just get out there and enjoy it!
Hell yeah, very impressive. If there were a thumbs up icon, i'd put it here:
Enjoy it I will indeed! Going to get a little taste this weekend taking it on my first driving excursion in the R to the Blue Ridge and deals gap
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 1st, 2010, 11:15 pm
by hondacbx
CivicBeater wrote:Erik95LS wrote:CivicBeater wrote:Incredible!
Tell me you got a semi boner puttin' the moves on the porsche? ha! What kind of power are you putting down?
It will probably take me a bit to do any justice to the 442, but I can at least tell you that you'll see it out there
haha nah, it's a regular occurrence for Hondas. Stock b18c5 with intake, header, and exhaust.
442 is a great car and ready to go. Just get out there and enjoy it!
Hell yeah, very impressive. If there were a thumbs up icon, i'd put it here:
Enjoy it I will indeed! Going to get a little taste this weekend taking it on my first driving excursion in the R to the Blue Ridge and deals gap
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 2nd, 2010, 10:35 pm
by Doespike
Erik95LS wrote:
442 is a great car and ready to go. Just get out there and enjoy it!
This
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 4th, 2010, 11:50 pm
by heel_touge
eh, haven't noticed a difference, but they are also only plummed to the forks. so it directs in the general area.
i spent too much time making a stupid little bracket to keep the hose out of the way on the driver side.
until i make something that directs air into the rotor veins, i would say its not worth the hassle.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 5th, 2010, 1:30 am
by itrsteez
fucking awesome video, I don't know how that was my first time seeing it.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 5th, 2010, 8:32 am
by heel_touge
erok, what cam do you use?
i purchased a way to expensive canon that vibrates like dog shit and you cant see anything.
Re: Has anyone engineered cooling ducts for front brakes?
Posted: May 5th, 2010, 12:57 pm
by Erik95LS
heel_touge wrote:erok, what cam do you use?
i purchased a way to expensive canon that vibrates like dog shit and you cant see anything.
THIS with a .6x wide angle on it. I've also now got a GoPro HD and an Aiptek. The samsung is by far the best for normal in car stuff like that. It's discontinued, but it's successors should be equally as good.